.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[bcmntgoathunter.]

And barrel life. A 22CM gives you probably 1500 rounds, .223 is 10x that.

True thank goodness I got 2 barrels... I like performance lol

 

[Deere_Man]

And barrel life. A 22CM gives you probably 1500 rounds, .223 is 10x that.

Would an 8 twist 22-250 have a similar round count on its barrel? Or slightly more?

 

[bcmntgoathunter.]

Would an 8 twist 22-250 have a similar round count on its barrel? Or slightly more?

Well depends on how your shooting it but I'm willing to bet even my 22 cm gets closer to 1800-2k i only shoot 2-3 round strings and im also keeping loads on the " non internet legend" side. The 22 250 will will get about another 250-300 on top of that my buddies 22 250 ai has 850 on it and it's still looking great

 

[Nomosendero]

Congrats to the little guy!

 

[Turkeytider]

540 pages. 10,000+ responses. I wonder if that alone says something about this subject (?).

 

[AZ_Hunter]

A couple more “firsts” for kids:
62gr TTSX, both 50ish yards

The TTSX does not make soup of vitals, but it kills well enough in this application. Small exits, no blood trails. Both animals ran about 20 yards before dropping.

My 10 year old shot the Corsican through the heart, taking the top of it and the major vessels off.

 

[ElPollo]

Eurooptic has multiple 223 Tikka T3x models on sale for $649 right now including the compact. Everyone on Rokslide who has kids should jump on that. It’s a great investment in your kids future. If you don’t have kids, buy one for your wife or buy one for yourself. You won’t regret it.

 

[Formidilosus]

but what were your thoughts on the 60g partition in terms of expansion and penetration vs the TMK @Formidilosus ?

They penetrate fine and open up fine- though nowhere near to the level of a TMK. The Partition issue is that when the front half fragments, the back half even if it exits leaves a very small exit hole. So you end up giving up more tissue damage and a wider wound, for a tiny exit hole (maybe), which generally doesn’t bleed much anyways.

 

[Ckat]

Mature MD at 250 yards. .223 Rem, LVR, 75gr ELD-M. Two to the shoulder - dead in 10 seconds and a couple of yards.

 

[Ckat]

Mature WT at 290 yards. .223 Rem, LVR, 75gr ELD-M. Three to the shoulder (at last light and I had a good “mark” on him, so I needed him dead quickly.) First one would have killed him easily. Dead in under 15 seconds from first shot - less than 5 yards traveled. No “autopsy” photos, but his shoulders were wrecked!

 

[Ckat]

Same .223 Rem, LVR, and 75gr ELD-M. 60 yards and 170 yards both to the front shoulder. 60 yard sow dropped dead. 170 yard boar went 25 yards - 4 seconds from impact to “crash”, verified by video.

 

[Ckat]

Daughter’s old buck at 121 yards. Howa .223 Rem, H335, 65gr SGK. Bullet can be seen [bulging] under the skin behind the shoulder. Entrance was same elevation, opposite side, front edge of the shoulder. Buck crumpled immediately and kicked a few seconds before dying. She has quite a number of dead bucks and pigs with this same combo… same results.

 

[nm.otter]

77 SMK, but good stuff

 

[Ckat]

Daughter’s old buck at 121 yards. Howa .223 Rem, H335, 65gr SGK…. She has quite a number of dead bucks and pigs with this same combo… same results.

Some of the other deer…

 

[JJ3]

Some of the other deer…

Where the heck are you hunting??? Any one of those are one in a lifetime in our woods

 

[atmat]

Where the heck are you hunting??? Any one of those are one in a lifetime in our woods

Probably Texas if I had to guess.

 

[Ckat]

Probably Texas if I had to guess.

Correct.

 

[KyleR1985]

I would really like to see a version of the .223 and 6mm threads titled "below 2200fps impact velocity kills".

At this point, it seems pretty silly to dispute the ability of these bullets to wreck deer and elk at 0-400 yards out of guns sending them at 2700-3200fps. I'm much more curious to see the results filtered for lower velocities.

It's just a continuation of the "less recoil makes you a better shot." line of thinking.

 

[ericmcd]

I would really like to see a version of the .223 and 6mm threads titled "below 2200fps impact velocity kills".

At this point, it seems pretty silly to dispute the ability of these bullets to wreck deer and elk at 0-400 yards out of guns sending them at 2700-3200fps. I'm much more curious to see the results filtered for lower velocities.

It's just a continuation of the "less recoil makes you a better shot." line of thinking.

From what I've gathered reading this thread velocity isn't the limiting factor at 400-450 yards, that yardage is due to wind drift.
Form posted an Elk with a velocity of around 1400 if I remember correctly, just most of us myself included suck at shooting compared to those guys even if we had the skills to call wind that well

 

[Drenalin]

Form posted an Elk with a velocity of around 1400 if I remember correctly, just most of us myself included suck at shooting compared to those guys even if we had the skills to call wind that well

If memory serves, that was a TMK, and I'm not sure we know where the lower limit is on velocity for that bullet. The others in this thread generally like to be above 1800, which seems to coincide with the 400-450, usually.