.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[Billogna]

This thread just keeps delivering!!! I LOVE it!!

 

[cowdisciple]

Thread title updated, lol. Nice!

 

[Antares]

I guess a young nanny wasn't good enough to get the title changed to include mountain goat. I'll try to get a good billy this season, then maybe you guys will be proud of me... maybe my Dad will be too...

 

[Sadler]

The fudds are about to be big mad…..again

 

[swavescatter]

maybe you guys will be proud of me... maybe my Dad will be too...

 

[Elmer J. Fudd]

The fudds are about to be big mad…..again

As the president I approve. We are mostly curious to see where the madness stops. We hadn’t planned on you psychos forming a navy and going after sea creatures too.

 

[mt terry d]

.... good shot placement (that is the key to any ethical kill with any cartridge).


I think the biggest question is not whether you can, but whether you should - ethically.

I am more likely to have good shot placement with the 223 over my 7mm or 300 Win Mag
So ethically I should use the 223 and not the others.

 

[PNWGATOR]

I guess a young nanny wasn't good enough to get the title changed to include mountain goat. I'll try to get a good billy this season, then maybe you guys will be proud of me... maybe my Dad will be too...

I got you…

Appreciate your contribution to the thread and believing in the process.

Looking forward to the recap and pics of this season’s adventures.

 

[atmat]

Haha who added ‘chupacabra’ to the title? That’s awesome.

 

[IDVortex]

I guess a young nanny wasn't good enough to get the title changed to include mountain goat. I'll try to get a good billy this season, then maybe you guys will be proud of me... maybe my Dad will be too...

Where did I miss this at?

 

[Antares]

Where did I miss this at?

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads...walrus-and-moose.130488/page-248#post-3322337

 

[IDVortex]

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads...walrus-and-moose.130488/page-248#post-3322337

That's legit!

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Looking for Chupacabra honey holes. Willing to hike.

Will accept bigfoot honey holes as well. Do I need more "knockdown power" for bigfoot though?? Not sure if a .223 has enough energy.

 

[IDVortex]

Looking for Chupacabra honey holes. Willing to hike.

Will accept bigfoot honey holes as well. Do I need more "knockdown power" for bigfoot though?? Not sure if a .223 has enough energy.

You'll need a .270.

 

[PsRpOiGrRiAtM]

You'll need a .270.

Maybe for a Tule Bigfoot. For a big Yukon you need a .338 Win Mag or bigger.

 

[Marbles]

The title change is great.

 

[Tahr]

It’s a polarizing topic because many have strongly held opinions that are not always based on data.

Only data that is objectively considered is valid. Confirmation bias is selecting data to confirm your belief. Plenty of that going on. On both sides of the TMK fence.

 

[ElPollo]

Only data that is objectively considered is valid. Confirmation bias is selecting data to confirm your belief. Plenty of that going on. On both sides of the TMK fence.

Please tell us about this confirmation bias.

 

[Marbles]

Only data that is objectively considered is valid. Confirmation bias is selecting data to confirm your belief. Plenty of that going on. On both sides of the TMK fence.

Can you present data from the TMK bad side? I've yet to see any data, but would really like to.

 

[Mulyhuntr]

so last fall due to this thread I loaded up some 77 gr tmk and gave them to a buddy to try, sounded like the perfect round for his kids who are getting into hunting, and are needing something light recoiling. We both have tikka 8 twist 223s. I tried varget, h 4895, and imr 8208 before settling on 8208 cause thats the only one i could bet 2800+ out of. I have since switched to tac with the same speeds and accuracy and its findable. I was never able to get better groups than a consistent 1 inch 5 shot group. Despite both our guns shooting much much better accuracy with a lot of other bullets, mostly 50-55 gr varmint bullets, never tried heavier. I have aftermarket mags which allow me to seat anywhere I please, everything was tried.

So all together they shot 6 deer with them and here is where it gets interesting. Low 2800s muzzle velocity.

All shot broadside behind shoulder at 90 yards and under. No big whitetail bucks, all does and spikes. 3 went down fast. 1 stumbled 50 yards and left a lot of blood. 2 ran 50 to 60 yards and left 0 blood . 0 of 6 bullets exited. Nothing really found under the hide or inside besides shrapnel. Big holes in first lung, a lot smaller hole in second. No bones hit besides ribs. bullets seemed very splashy, not alot of penetration at these closer ranges. Honestly a tough 55 gr sp from speer, sierra or hornady(they all make a tough sp 55gr 22 cal) does better penetration wise.

H4895 with 75 eldm gets me 2940-2950 from a 22" tikka. What was your charge weight?