.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

robby denning

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22UM is better…. Higher hit rates, way less drop (elevation correction) to 600 yards, and less recoil.
You can do it!
hacking away.

lol!

thanks Form.

so where is the differnce in 6UM for 22UM? Powder capacity? Assuming they're both shooting the 77s?
 

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That’s true, but even @Ryan Avery had to come around and shoot the 6.5cm. @Dioni A also finally got on the 22CM for his deer hunting. You should come to the shooting week in June, then you can see how the .22’s perform….. jus sayin 😗
Every time I've disagreed with form I shortly afterwards figured out that I was wrong. For whatever that's worth @robby denning. Lol

Edit to add. 88gn ELD-M are nasty on a mule deer. I'll send you a video.
 

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problem is with the CM in the name, we sent so much shade that way over the years....

The 22 creed doesn't have the same name as 6.5
And if a guys is totally honest.
The creedmoors are quite nice 🙂

Altho if I must be honest. I sold my 6.5 so I could fund a 223. So yes I dived in head first. My only hunting rifle now is a 223 for everything in North Idaho. I'm excited
 

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so you hunted this year with it?
A friend of mine did and I was with him when he took a nice buck. I emailed you a 10 second video with some supporting pictures. I don't have any way to upload it here.
It was an impressive amount of damage. There was an honest almost 4-in hole through this deer. With significant trauma going well past that width.
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A friend of mine did and I was with him when he took a nice buck. I emailed you a 10 second video with some supporting pictures. I don't have any way to upload it here.
It was an impressive amount of damage. There was an honest almost 4-in hole through this deer. With significant trauma going well past that width.
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77tmk?

That bullet at creedmoor speed creates a hell of a mess. 77 starting at 3k at 100 yards took out 3 ribs, going in, and made it all the way to the off side hide.

Personally I’ll keep hunting with the 22 creed and the 77tmk.
 

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Has anyone shot the Stand1Armory 77 TMK ammo?

Also, stupid question, what does RCP mean? I just want to make sure I don't order something that won't fit a mag or something. I have a stock Tikka and the Stand1 stuff says 223 Rem RCP 77 TMK...
 

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You may have a tough time buying the Stand1 ammo. Their website is crap.
 

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Has anyone shot the Stand1Armory 77 TMK ammo?
Yes, but not hunting. Here's my post (https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/223-barrel-length-speed.325173/post-3391495) of the velocities of that an others. It was the fastest.
You may have a tough time buying the Stand1 ammo. Their website is crap.
I think that I posted about this in another thread (in a reply to you) that they told me this was a temporary situation due to a cyber attack and it has been fixed. Have you tried it since then?
 

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Yes, but not hunting. Here's my post (https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/223-barrel-length-speed.325173/post-3391495) of the velocities of that an others. It was the fastest.

I think that I posted about this in another thread (in a reply to you) that they told me this was a temporary situation due to a cyber attack and it has been fixed. Have you tried it since then?
No, i tried twice around that time, then bought the Black Hills ammo. I probably should go back and try again tho! THanks!
 

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The 22cm / 88eld combo is impressive and fun. Silly ballistics for 8 ft lbs of recoil.
After a conversation with @Formidilosus and seeing what my buddies did, then running the numbers for myself It feels stupid to do anything else if you care at all about shootability and watching impacts. I don't think enough value is placed on spotting an impact and making a perfect second shot. Nobody's first shot is guaranteed. There is no cartridge better than this one that is commercially available if you care at all about the balance of high performance and shootability.
 

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How did the numbers you ran compare to the 6cm? I would’ve thought anyone stepping up from the 223 would end up in the .243/6mm cartridges.


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preface: if this has been answered here please share the page number or post number.

The only questions I have about using very small light bullets, ones not typically considered large enough... lets say for example a 223 caliber on a large bull elk to be specific.

I well aware it doesn't take much to kill most anything in the right situations.

Lets say your hunting bull elk with a 223, you see a nice huge trophy bull and take the shot. Your typically a good shot but maybe its not a perfect broadside target or something and you hit large heavy bone. How will a tiny 223 be affected with a heavy bone hit? How will increasing distance affect the same hit?
100yds?
200yds?
300yds?
400yds?
How far out would you go?
 
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preface: if this has been answered here please share the page number or post number.

The only questions I have about using very small light bullets, ones not typically considered large enough... lets say for example a 223 caliber on a large bull elk to be specific.

I well aware it doesn't take much to kill most anything in the right situations.

Lets say your hunting bull elk with a 223, you see a nice huge trophy bull and take the shot. Your typically a good shot but maybe its not a perfect broadside target or something and you hit large heavy bone. How will a tiny 223 be affected with a heavy bone hit? How will increasing distance affect the same hit?
100yds?
200yds?
300yds?
400yds?
How far out would you go?
There are some good examples in the thread, if you read it, of the TMK going through heavy bone at a variety of distances.
 

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preface: if this has been answered here please share the page number or post number.

The only questions I have about using very small light bullets, ones not typically considered large enough... lets say for example a 223 caliber on a large bull elk to be specific.

I well aware it doesn't take much to kill most anything in the right situations.

Lets say your hunting bull elk with a 223, you see a nice huge trophy bull and take the shot. Your typically a good shot but maybe its not a perfect broadside target or something and you hit large heavy bone. How will a tiny 223 be affected with a heavy bone hit? How will increasing distance affect the same hit?
100yds?
200yds?
300yds?
400yds?
How far out would you go?
The price for this knowledge costs you the time to read it all. Trust it will be more efficient
 
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