1911’s in general, 9mm versions specifically

[fwafwow]

Currently prevaricating over a C or HD4.5 for “everything.”

-J

I was just starting to consider the HDP4 or HD P4.5 but I am not sure I like the rear sight and the Glock mags.

 

[NSI]

I was just starting to consider the HDP4 or HD P4.5 but I am not sure I like the rear sight and the Glock mags.

The mec gar metal Glock mags it ships with are good to go. The forward mounted HD rear sight is a backup, it’s useful for making sure your dot hasn’t shifted, and it’s theoretically a better surface off of which to rack the pistol than the optic. If you’re not mounting an optic, you’d probably not be looking at the HD anyway.

-J

 

[Fatcamp]

The 2311 grip shape/size sucks. A standard Staccato/2011 grip is better. The Staccato C and CS are overall the best carry/duty/everything factory pistols on the market.

If you get a Staccato C or CS, use it, ask me any questions you like, and if after giving it a full on serious training time decide you don’t like it- I’ll buy it from you.

What about the initial single stack C? Any thoughts on them?

 

[NSI]

What’s the roll trigger kit of choice? Or do we have someone like KC Crawford or Doug Hall do it?

-J

 

[Formidilosus]

Currently prevaricating over a C or HD4.5 for “everything.”

-J

The HD is blocky and square like a Glock. A very good “not Glock” Glock duty pistol. But, given a choice the grip of the C and CS are much better shaped- thinner side to side than front to back.

 

[Formidilosus]

What about the initial single stack C? Any thoughts on them?

Very good pistols. If they still made them, they would be the answer for a production CCW pistol.

 

[Formidilosus]

What’s the roll trigger kit of choice? Or do we have someone like KC Crawford or Doug Hall do it?

-J

KC Customs.

 

[eric1115]

@Formidilosus @RockAndSage

So this has been danced around and good input given, but to put a fine point on it -

Say a guy was looking for a first pistol and looking at a G19 because everyone says that's the standard for a do everything gun. He wants it for carry (probably appendix), bears/woods, and will put it on the nightstand at the end of the day. He wants to spend G19ish money ($500-600).

What would you steer him towards? That guy was me about 5 years ago and I went G48 (slim grip/profile was very appealing, and 15 round shield mags sounded great. I've gone back to the factory 10-rounders). Thinking of changing to a 1911, and a single stack commander size Tisas (with Wilson extractor and maybe some trigger work?) seems like the way to go.

I've been dot-curious, but never really felt like the Ameriglo sights on my G48 were holding me back more than my lack of skill. Getting my slide milled and buying a dot has always felt like a much smaller improvement than I'd get from buying another couple thousand rounds and just shooting the damn thing. Do I get one that's dot-ready? How about a rail for a light? I always always have a streamlight 500 lumen clipped in my pocket, but I suck at shooting strong hand only even more than I do with two hands. I'm not crazy about the increased size and weight of a cool-guy light and dot equipped pistol (especially with the weight gain of going from a G48 to a 1911). I've spent a little time with dot equipped pistols, but it has mostly been just plinking. I could see how they would need lots of training under stress, otherwise they are not the silver bullet lots of guys say they are in a time/stress pressure situation. With time, pretty sweet.

What would you recommend a guy do if he didn't want to get sucked too far in, wanted one do-it-all pistol that just works and shoots well, and didn't care about cool-guy points (what the G19 is often thought to be)? Wants to shoot 1k-2k rounds a year, but no aspirations of ever being a truly good shooter?