Your Second Layer?

[Flight452]

Enlighten Equipment Torrid Jacket. This is best piece of clothing gear I’ve ever bought. During early season I just have a light base layer and this jacket. Then starting in October I use it as my mid layer and end up wearing it most of the day because it’s plenty warm down to like 30 degrees. With a light base layer, this torrid jacket, and a stone glacier puffy on top I’ve never been cold down to 0 degrees.

That jacket looked very interesting to me, especially the part about it being made in the USA but when I went to the site to order i found this, not sure if thats for all the jackets or just the ready made/in stock options

 

[mtwarden]

^ evidently their on the shelf (non-custom) ones are now being made in Vietnam, their "custom" ones still in Minnesota

wonder when that changed

I don't think the "custom" ones cost much more (if any)- just have to wait for them to be made

 

[ChrisAU]

Thin merino base t-shirt, 125-150 weight, with Peloton 97 over it. Always and forever. It keeps me warm when moving down to 0* and below, but breathes well enough to keep me from sweating to death all the way up to 65* or so, generally.

So my answer is Peloton 97.

 

[cornfedkiller]

My favorite is the Kuiu Super Down ULTRA Vest. I also like the Sitka Kelvin Aerolite but it's not as warm.

Not trying to derail the thread, but the super down ultra vest is warmer than the aerolite?

 

[Justin Crossley]

Not trying to derail the thread, but the super down ultra vest is warmer than the aerolite?

Yes. My KUIU Super Down ULTRA vest has about twice the loft compared to my Sitka Kelvin Aerolite vest.

I'll try to get a photo of both that will show the difference.

 

[cornfedkiller]

Yes. My KUIU Super Down ULTRA vest has about twice the loft compared to my Sitka Kelvin Aerolite vest.

I'll try to get a photo of both that will show the difference.

Interesting.. I was about to pull the trigger on a kelvin aerolite vest, but maybe I'll hold off and do some more research. Looking forward to your pics!

 

[sneaky]

^ evidently their on the shelf (non-custom) ones are now being made in Vietnam, their "custom" ones still in Minnesota

wonder when that changed

I don't think the "custom" ones cost much more (if any)- just have to wait for them to be made

They've done that for a while with their quilts too. Ready made ones, the shells are sewn overseas, then stuffed with down and shipped from MN. Only the custom stuff is all done in MN. I bet people want made in US gear, but don't want to wait for it. They want it now, and cheap!

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[Agross]

I have and use Sawtooth, Peloton 240, and Heavyweight hoodies, but this cheap bastard from EB might be my favorite right now:

Grid Fleece Full Zip Hoodie

Man, for that price I gotta try it .

 

[Dobermann]

Do First Lite do something similar to the Sitka Active Jacket?

I've kinda lost track of their various line-up changes ...

 

[Lowg08]

Do First Lite do something similar to the Sitka Active Jacket?

I've kinda lost track of their various line-up changes ...

I think the 37.5 is an attempt at it but it in my opinion is not comparable to the primaloft.

 

[MT_Wyatt]

Do First Lite do something similar to the Sitka Active Jacket?

I've kinda lost track of their various line-up changes ...

Not directly, really. Their sawtooth stuff is kind of a hybrid active piece. If I’m going to wear it all day, I like their sawtooth vest for an active piece as it’s insulated in front and just wool on the back.

 

[Clarktar]

Check out this jacket... 11.5 ounces, Polartec Alpha

Error | Eigerjoch IN Hybrid Jacket Men | Mammut

The Eigerjoch IN Hybrid from our Mammut Eiger Extreme collection is a high-performance insulated jacket. Stretchy fleece panels offer improved freedom of motion and breathability for backcountry ski touring and mountain climbing. The wool content has a naturally odor-inhibiting effect. The...

www.mammut.com

 

[mtwarden]

^ interesting, but where's the hood?

 

[Clarktar]

^ interesting, but where's the hood?

If I am "active" and on the move I run too hot for a hood.

And I think you can find it on sale at times for roughly 1/2 the price of the Sitka/Arrowhead MDWi

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[mtwarden]

I'm a dyed in the wool hood guy I'm lost without a hood; I use them very frequently to regulate temps

I looked hard at the Kelvin Active jacket, but no hood was a non-starter for me- the reason I went with Active hoody, even though it was half sleeved

 

[sneaky]

I'm a dyed in the wool hood guy I'm lost without a hood; I use them very frequently to regulate temps

I looked hard at the Kelvin Active jacket, but no hood was a non-starter for me- the reason I went with Active hoody, even though it was half sleeved

Have you ever looked at the Buffalo Systems Special 6 out of the UK? Gets rave reviews and looks pretty interesting

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[mtwarden]

Have you ever looked at the Buffalo Systems Special 6 out of the UK? Gets rave reviews and looks pretty interesting

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I have looked, but never bit. I agree, it's piqued my interest as well. They've been around for awhile and folks still swear by it.

 

[woods89]

Here's a bit of an experiment. I'm tired of having to be really cold at times while hiking to keep my back from sweating like crazy. This is a Columbia lightweight fleece I bought a few years ago from STP. It has breathable panels on the shoulders already, but I had my wife sew a mesh panel in the back that's just a bit wider than my widest backpack.

We probably won't have a lot of cold weather here anymore but I'm hopefully going to test it a bit before spring. I'll probably bring a vest to replace the lost area when static. Maybe I ruined a good fleece, or maybe it's nirvana. I'll report back.

I've thought for awhile that something like this should be available commercially.

 

[jd1006]

Brilliant design.

 

[Formidilosus]

Here's a bit of an experiment. I'm tired of having to be really cold at times while hiking to keep my back from sweating like crazy. This is a Columbia lightweight fleece I bought a few years ago from STP. It has breathable panels on the shoulders already, but I had my wife sew a mesh panel in the back that's just a bit wider than my widest backpack.

We probably won't have a lot of cold weather here anymore but I'm hopefully going to test it a bit before spring. I'll probably bring a vest to replace the lost area when static. Maybe I ruined a good fleece, or maybe it's nirvana. I'll report back.

I've thought for awhile that something like this should be available commercially.

That’s prezactly what Ryan and I were talking about. Take that, make it out if Polartec Alpha Direct… money.