Wyoming nonresident proposal

[307]

It's doest matter what my interpretation of it is.

The LAW states shall physically reside in the state for 365 I am not so sure why the is so hard to understand. A actuall LAW that's the best source you Can have keep looking past it I don't care.

Your the one trying to make your own interpretation of a LAW on the books if you don't have to be there 365 based on that then how long do you have to be in the state the first year to be a resident

I have lived in Wyoming for 19 years. I haven't lived/resided/domiciled anywhere else in that timeframe. I own multiple businesses and have owned many homes and commercial properties in WY. I haven't once paid taxes for any other state during that time. My children were born here.

I have never physically been present in the state of Wyoming for 365 consecutive days. Not the first year, nor any other of the 19 years.

Would you claim that I'm not a Wyoming resident for the purposes of hunting/fishing?

 

[Archer86]

I have lived in Wyoming for 19 years. I haven't lived/resided/domiciled anywhere else in that timeframe. I own multiple businesses and have owned many homes and commercial properties in WY. I haven't once paid taxes for any other state during that time. My children were born here.

I have never physically been present in the state of Wyoming for 365 consecutive days. Not the first year, nor any other of the 19 years.

Would you claim that I'm not a Wyoming resident for the purposes of hunting/fishing?

I have no idea what the law was 19 years ago.

I am done with this as apperantly all laws are up for everyone's interpretation.

Only thing I can suggest to anyone is call fish and game and explain there situation I definite wouldnt take the word of anyone on the internet.

 

[Trackerbacker]

I have no idea what the law was 19 years ago.

I am done with this as apperantly all laws are up for everyone's interpretation.

Only thing I can suggest to anyone is call fish and game and explain there situation I definite wouldnt take the word of anyone on the internet.

boy did i not realize that my statement would grow two pages long!

good on you and from the sounds of it, your family as well, sounds like it has been great for yall.

To clarify, i think you kept it civil as well as most, albeit i took it all on a tangent. Obviously i recommend to all they stay within the bounds of the law, to their advantage.

so, back on topic, do they have a sounding board, somewhere thoughts can be given? im all for residents, and non residents, and professions around hunting, but catering to business over residents or in this case lobbyists, doesnt sit well.

 

[307]

I have no idea what the law was 19 years ago.

I am done with this as apperantly all laws are up for everyone's interpretation.

Only thing I can suggest to anyone is call fish and game and explain there situation I definite wouldnt take the word of anyone on the internet.

The point of my individual case study is to point out that your assertion that one must be physically present in the state for 365 consecutive days is not only absurd, it's incorrect.

Physically residing does not mean the same thing as being physically present.

 

[Archer86]

The point of my individual case study is to point out that your assertion that one must be physically present in the state for 365 consecutive days is not only absurd, it's incorrect.

Physically residing does not mean the same thing as being physically present.

I am not sure I ever said physical present every time I said physicals reside I am well aware of the difference and being gone 6 months out of a 1 calander year you are not meeting the 1st year requirement

 

[tdhanses]

I am not sure I ever said physical present every time I said physicals reside I am well aware of the difference and being gone 6 months out of a 1 calander year you are not meeting the 1st year requirement

With that logic you’re probably the only true resident. Guess maybe a few babies born each year stay in state 365 days straight.

 

[307]

I am not sure I ever said physical present every time I said physicals reside I am well aware of the difference and being gone 6 months out of a 1 calander year you are not meeting the 1st year requirement

So how many days can you be out of the state, physically, in the first calendar year, and still meet the requirement for establishing WY residency?

<180 is the only currently stated number, which you've claimed is incorrect.

 

[svivian]

I love Wyoming threads.... they never cease to entertain!

 

[dieselchessy]

I’m almost afraid to ask, but what I don’t understand is where this whole “1st year” bit comes from. As I read the laws the “365 domicile” bit applies to every year and every license you buy. Not just the first one.

“To qualify for any resident game and fish license, preference point, permit or tag, a person shall be domiciled and shall physically reside in Wyoming for one (1) full year (365 consecutive days) immediately preceding the date the person applies for or purchases the license, preference point, permit or tag and the person shall not have claimed residency elsewhere for any other purpose (including, but not limited to, voting, payment of income taxes, purchase of resident hunting, fishing or trapping licenses, etc.) during that one (1) year period.”

@Archer68
“This might be correct for flordia but not for wyoming to gain hunting privileges as a resident the first year is a full 365 then You can go to the 6 months or more.”

 

[Gobbler36]

I understand it’s about the $$ and since most states wildlife management is self funded, this is not a unique problem. Hunting and fishing numbers are dropping, thus revenue is dropping. Unfortunately raising prices won’t help long term. It will just drive away more hunters. Speeding up the downward spiral.

Had a great example of this in college, bus was $.25. Lots of ridership. They needed funds, so raised the price to $1.00. Ridership and total funds collected dropped. Lowered prices and riders didn’t come back as habits had already changed.

We can only hope the west will lose some hunters
long term this will help

 

[BULLBLASTER]

Anybody have any updates to this bill? I am not overly familiar with Wyoming's leg process but it appears it may have died in the senate?

 

[wapitibob]

dead on introduction

 

[Hang18]

Re: Resident debate. If you question your or anothers interpretation, I suggest either a letter or email of inquiry. Thereby you get a written response with hopefully a name and title. Years ago when I lived in MA I wanted to know if it were legal to park/hunt off any major highway. I wrote the State police and wildlife.
I got two diff answers. Possibly my mistake was when I referenced each response from one to the other....
listen....can you hear 'em? Crickets! I didn't hunt off any highway, not wanting any "debate" in the field. Anyway, imho, get it in writing you are dealing w/the government.

 

[Rifleman86]

Someone just posted in another thread that the bill died, so this whole debate is funny and pointless.

Regardless I find this “you have to stay in Wyoming 365 days your first year to be a resident” debate quite humorous…

Even if the law said exactly that (which it doesn’t IMO), no prosecutor is going to bring a case against someone for illegally hunting as a resident because they went on vacation out of state or had to tie up loose ends like selling a house after they moved. It’s not worth the state’s precious time or money. That would be a real tough conviction in front of a jury…

They are going to go after guys that use Wyoming as an address while working out of state and renting said address as a VRBO, or the even easier targets of guys who say “**** it” and buy a resident license and use a friends address in state, claim multiple addresses, etc.

In a little over a decade I plan on moving west, likely to Wyoming. I’ll do so while still technically being employed in Ohio, burning sick time from my employer prior to officially retiring and drawing my pension. I’m sure I’ll probably have to return from time to time to tie up loose ends after officially moving. Selling my house, filling out paperwork for my employer and pension board.

I plan on purchasing a Wyoming resident hunting license on the 1 yr date from getting my Wyoming drivers license and changing my voters registration, and not giving it a second thought.

Some of you guys worry too much.

 

[CMF]

Hate to bring this debate back up, but want to add another variable no one mentioned, the "Special Situations". I'm considering a permanent home in WY eventually but will plan to maintain a property in MS to retreat to in the winter months.
The website also mentions "Special Situations"
(2) Working Outside of Wyoming Temporarily: A person who is sent out of state to work for a short period of time, knowing that as soon as the project is completed, the person will return to Wyoming to his or her domicile, shall not lose residency status. However, a person who leaves the state to take employment loses residency even though he or she may desire to return to Wyoming at some future date.

I do contract turnaround work in multiple states throughout the year. If I'm working out of state 130 days a year, In MS 80 days a year, that only leaves 155 days a year in Wyoming, not counting hunting and vacationing in other various states. I would obviously give up my MS resident hunt/fish privileges.

My interpretation is the working days will not count toward being gone and only the 80 days in MS could be considered as residing outside of the state, so as long as those days are not over 180, I should be good, right?

How does the state look at renting your property, like VRBO when you're not there? I would think it wouldn't matter as long as you're meeting the criteria.

 

[sneaky]

Hate to bring this debate back up, but want to add another variable no one mentioned, the "Special Situations". I'm considering a permanent home in WY eventually but will plan to maintain a property in MS to retreat to in the winter months.
The website also mentions "Special Situations"
(2) Working Outside of Wyoming Temporarily: A person who is sent out of state to work for a short period of time, knowing that as soon as the project is completed, the person will return to Wyoming to his or her domicile, shall not lose residency status. However, a person who leaves the state to take employment loses residency even though he or she may desire to return to Wyoming at some future date.

I do contract turnaround work in multiple states throughout the year. If I'm working out of state 130 days a year, In MS 80 days a year, that only leaves 155 days a year in Wyoming, not counting hunting and vacationing in other various states. I would obviously give up my MS resident hunt/fish privileges.

My interpretation is the working days will not count toward being gone and only the 80 days in MS could be considered as residing outside of the state, so as long as those days are not over 180, I should be good, right?

How does the state look at renting your property, like VRBO when you're not there? I would think it wouldn't matter as long as you're meeting the criteria.

How about you don't tell them and live your life? The government certainly hides enough stuff from the people on the daily.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk