Wyoming nonresident proposal

[Tod osier]

No where in the Regs and statutes does it say you have to physically be in state 365 24-7.

Absolutely agree on the 365 not being in the statutes, that is the interpretation of Game and Fish, but also shows their strong bias as far as what they are thinking for enforcement.

Under my constraints I do not think I could terminate residency of my current state as far as taxes until done working, so a non starter. Also the 180 days would be problematic some years for me.

 

[tdhanses]

Absolutely agree on the 365 not being in the statutes, that is the interpretation of Game and Fish, but also shows their strong bias as far as what they are thinking for enforcement.

Under my constraints I do not think I could terminate residency of my current state as far as taxes until done working, so a non starter. Also the 180 days would be problematic some years for me.

Yeah the 180+ days is the difficult part, but if you were there every 2 weeks or every other month you would qualify, if you spent summers there you could skip winter.

It would be something someone would have to really want but is doable.

 

[dirtytough]

I used to work with people from all over the country. Multiple Wyoming 'residents'. They all kept their Wyoming residency even though their actual work schedule was 15 days on, 6 days off. 5 days on, 2 days off, etc. And most did not travel back and forth on their days off.

I called WGFD to ask about it. Their response was as long as that is where they claim they are domiciled, it's fine to claim residency in Wyoming. One guy ended up drawing moose and sheep as a resident of Wyoming even though he worked a 5 on 2 off schedule.

 

[tdhanses]

I used to work with people from all over the country. Multiple Wyoming 'residents'. They all kept their Wyoming residency even though their actual work schedule was 15 days on, 6 days off. 5 days on, 2 days off, etc. And most did not travel back and forth on their days off.

I called WGFD to ask about it. Their response was as long as that is where they claim they are domiciled, it's fine to claim residency in Wyoming. One guy ended up drawing moose and sheep as a resident of Wyoming even though he worked a 5 on 2 off schedule.

Doesn’t shock me that was their answer and bonus, you get to vote there.

 

[Rich M]

Buy a house, move to WY, FL, wherever, register as a resident, get a driver's license, pay utilities on the property, stay there 6 months or more and bingo! Yer a full time resident. Enjoy the taxes (or lack thereof), whatever weather you get, and voting. Not a big deal at all.

Down here we call em snow birds and the traffic backs up even more when they show up in the fall.

Folks make things out to be so difficult. And so scandalous!

 

[Archer86]

Buy a house, move to WY, FL, wherever, register as a resident, get a driver's license, pay utilities on the property, stay there 6 months or more and bingo! Yer a full time resident. Enjoy the taxes (or lack thereof), whatever weather you get, and voting. Not a big deal at all.

Down here we call em snow birds and the traffic backs up even more when they show up in the fall.

Folks make things out to be so difficult. And so scandalous!

This might be correct for flordia but not for wyoming to gain hunting privileges as a resident the first year is a full 365 then You can go to the 6 months or more. Now if someone looks into the 365 or not I am not sure but It clearly states it on The fish and game website and if you call and ask they will tell you the same thing.

all the miss information on the site is crazy.

 

[wytx]

Give it a go.

Domicile means: "That place where a person has his true, fixed and permanent home to which, whenever a person is temporarily absent, the person has the intention of returning." Having a mailing address, owning property or a business, or being employed in Wyoming shall not alone prove Wyoming residency or domicile.

 

[Mojave]

Wyoming has a definition of residency, that unless you are willing to lie, you will not get around.

I own property there and will claim residency when it is legal to do so, but that will take actually moving there.

Concur, we had a local Forest Service LEO when my father was a BLM Ranger in Cody (I had been in the military for 15 years then, I didn't know the guy), but he got fired from the Forest Service and lost his tags for claminig residency when he was not one.

 

[tdhanses]

Give it a go.

Domicile means: "That place where a person has his true, fixed and permanent home to which, whenever a person is temporarily absent, the person has the intention of returning." Having a mailing address, owning property or a business, or being employed in Wyoming shall not alone prove Wyoming residency or domicile.

Sounds like every retired person I know, it isn’t as complex of a thing to do these days if one can work remotely.

CO makes it even easier.

 

[Fatcamp]

This might be correct for flordia but not for wyoming to gain hunting privileges as a resident the first year is a full 365 then You can go to the 6 months or more. Now if someone looks into the 365 or not I am not sure but It clearly states it on The fish and game website and if you call and ask they will tell you the same thing.

all the miss information on the site is crazy.

You do not have to stay in Wyoming for 365 days straight to establish residency.

 

[Archer86]

You do not have to stay in Wyoming for 365 days straight to establish residency.

Wyoming Game and Fish Department - Am I a Wyoming Resident

wgfd.wyo.gov

 

[Fatcamp]

Wyoming Game and Fish Department - Am I a Wyoming Resident

wgfd.wyo.gov

LOL. "Physically reside" does not mean you are a prisoner and unable to leave at will.

 

[Mojave]

Wyoming is tough.

When I switched from active duty military to civil servant, I lost my state residency. They told me that I could not be a federal civil servant or diplomatic mission person stationed overseas and maintain residency. But if I was on active duty I could.

 

[Rich M]

This might be correct for Florida but not for Wyoming to gain hunting privileges as a resident the first year is a full 365 then You can go to the 6 months or more. Now if someone looks into the 365 or not I am not sure but It clearly states it on The fish and game website and if you call and ask they will tell you the same thing.

all the miss information on the site is crazy.

It is off-season and we're all bored, in that manner I reply.

If you own a home, have a driver's license, and house and maintain it for a year - sounds like a resident to me. Even if they aren't physically there the full year or 365 days. That's how many states work - they require 6 or 12 month residency before you can buy a R license. Not a big deal like some guys are trying to push.

It's not like 5 guys renting an apartment and living in other states (someone was offering this a couple years ago on here, btw). That's illegal. But if you own the house & land, pay taxes on it, have DL, go to the Dr there, etc. and basically make it your home, I'm inclined to give benefit of the doubt.

What are we gonna see now, folks watching, counting the days on their fingers and toes, and calling LEO cause the guy who lives next door went on a vacation and doesn't have a full 365 days in the first year to get his resident license? I wouldn't put it past some on here, they need to get a life.

What's this called? Splitting hairs?

F&G says this:

Can I apply for a Resident License?​

To qualify for any resident game and fish license, preference point, permit or tag, a person shall be domiciled and shall physically reside in Wyoming for one (1) full year (365 consecutive days) immediately preceding the date the person applies for or purchases the license, preference point, permit or tag and the person shall not have claimed residency elsewhere for any other purpose (including, but not limited to, voting, payment of income taxes, purchase of resident hunting, fishing or trapping licenses, etc.) during that one (1) year period.

Any active duty member of the armed forces of the United States who has been stationed in Wyoming for ninety (90) days shall qualify for resident licenses so long as the member remains stationed in Wyoming.

Who is a Resident?​

Resident means: "a United States citizen or legal alien who meets the requirements specified in § 23-1-107 and rules of the Game and Fish Commission."

A person shall lose residency in Wyoming if the person moves to another state, territory or country and makes it his or her domicile, or if the person temporarily resides in any other state, territory, or country for an aggregate of one hundred eighty (180) days or more in a calendar year, unless he or she qualifies as one of the following:

• A minor dependent
• Is temporarily employed in the service of the United States
• Is a patient at a hospital or institution
• Is attending school
• Is an active duty member of the armed forces
• Is serving full time in an established volunteer service

(Refer to § 23-1-107 and WGFC Regulation Chapter 44 for detailed requirements).

 

[Archer86]

It is off-season and we're all bored, in that manner I reply.

If you own a home, have a driver's license, and house and maintain it for a year - sounds like a resident to me. Even if they aren't physically there the full year or 365 days. That's how many states work - they require 6 or 12 month residency before you can buy a R license. Not a big deal like some guys are trying to push.

It's not like 5 guys renting an apartment and living in other states (someone was offering this a couple years ago on here, btw). That's illegal. But if you own the house & land, pay taxes on it, have DL, go to the Dr there, etc. and basically make it your home, I'm inclined to give benefit of the doubt.

What are we gonna see now, folks watching, counting the days on their fingers and toes, and calling LEO cause the guy who lives next door went on a vacation and doesn't have a full 365 days in the first year to get his resident license? I wouldn't put it past some on here, they need to get a life.

What's this called? Splitting hairs?

F&G says this:

Can I apply for a Resident License?​

To qualify for any resident game and fish license, preference point, permit or tag, a person shall be domiciled and shall physically reside in Wyoming for one (1) full year (365 consecutive days) immediately preceding the date the person applies for or purchases the license, preference point, permit or tag and the person shall not have claimed residency elsewhere for any other purpose (including, but not limited to, voting, payment of income taxes, purchase of resident hunting, fishing or trapping licenses, etc.) during that one (1) year period.

Any active duty member of the armed forces of the United States who has been stationed in Wyoming for ninety (90) days shall qualify for resident licenses so long as the member remains stationed in Wyoming.

Who is a Resident?​

Resident means: "a United States citizen or legal alien who meets the requirements specified in § 23-1-107 and rules of the Game and Fish Commission."

A person shall lose residency in Wyoming if the person moves to another state, territory or country and makes it his or her domicile, or if the person temporarily resides in any other state, territory, or country for an aggregate of one hundred eighty (180) days or more in a calendar year, unless he or she qualifies as one of the following:

• A minor dependent
• Is temporarily employed in the service of the United States
• Is a patient at a hospital or institution
• Is attending school
• Is an active duty member of the armed forces
• Is serving full time in an established volunteer service

(Refer to § 23-1-107 and WGFC Regulation Chapter 44 for detailed requirements).

It literally says shall physically reside in wyoming for 365 yeah if you go on vacation no big deal. But you most definitely can't go by the 6 month rule the first year. I agree it's not that hard to accomplish.

Maybe wyoming should require the 365 every year to get resident hunting privileges.

But you implied in the post I quoted that once your there 6 months your a resident which is not the case.

 

[Fatcamp]

It literally says shall physically reside in wyoming for 365 yeah if you go on vacation no big deal. But you most definitely can't go by the 6 month rule the first year. I agree it's not that hard to accomplish.

Maybe wyoming should require the 365 every year to get resident hunting privileges.

But you implied in the post I quoted that once your there 6 months your a resident which is not the case.

So is a week vacation, OK?

Two weeks?

And other than your interpretation do you have any specific source for this?

 

[Archer86]

So is a week vacation, OK?

Two weeks?

And other than your interpretation do you have any specific source for this?

It's doest matter what my interpretation of it is.

The LAW states shall physically reside in the state for 365 I am not so sure why the is so hard to understand. A actuall LAW that's the best source you Can have keep looking past it I don't care.

Your the one trying to make your own interpretation of a LAW on the books if you don't have to be there 365 based on that then how long do you have to be in the state the first year to be a resident

 

[Jon Boy]

This. Sorry archer but you are incorrect. May not like it or agree with it but these guys are right. You have to claim you are a resident and have the credentials for one year before you can hunt. That does not mean you are a prisoner to Wyoming for 365 days and then you can leave on vacation after that 365 days is up. Doesn't matter if your vacation is 1 week or 5 1/2 months.

Honestly I don't see anything wrong with it. As a gentleman said above he claims residency in one state, business licensed in another, car that he lease to said business registered in another. There can be massive advantages to doing this and is completely legal, I see hunting rights no different as long as you follow the letter of the law and pay your taxes. Who cares if im there 6 months or a year as long as I pay all of my taxes, register my vehicles and file with the state.

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[Archer86]

This. Sorry archer but you are incorrect. May not like it or agree with it but these guys are right. You have to claim you are a resident and have the credentials for one year before you can hunt. That does not mean you are a prisoner to Wyoming for 365 days and then you can leave on vacation after that 365 days is up. Doesn't matter if your vacation is 1 week or 5 1/2 months.

Honestly I don't see anything wrong with it. As a gentleman said above he claims residency in one state, business licensed in another, car that he lease to said business registered in another. There can be massive advantages to doing this and is completely legal, I see hunting rights no different as long as you follow the letter of the law and pay your taxes. Who cares if im there 6 months or a year as long as I pay all of my taxes, register my vehicles and file with the state.

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Wyoming Game and Fish Department - Am I a Wyoming Resident

wgfd.wyo.gov

You need to do some reading.

I never once stated that you were a prisoner of the state .and I know you have to reside in the state for a full year before buying resident licenses or applying as a residnet for special permits

You may not agree with the LAW BUT IT IS VERY CLEAR ON WHAT IS REQUIRED

 

[tdhanses]

It literally says shall physically reside in wyoming for 365 yeah if you go on vacation no big deal. But you most definitely can't go by the 6 month rule the first year. I agree it's not that hard to accomplish.

Maybe wyoming should require the 365 every year to get resident hunting privileges.

But you implied in the post I quoted that once your there 6 months your a resident which is not the case.

It literally doesn’t in the actual statute and regs, a brief summary isn’t the law.