Wyoming Non Resident Preference Point Increase

[WoolyBugger]

I just got to a place financially last year where I can start collecting points for multiple states so this kinda blows.. I cut out most all alcohol, quit nicotine, and only eat out a couple times a year to afford points, tags, and gear while raising a family.

An extra $100 a year isn't much in the grand scheme of things but when you combine it with spending double at the grocery store, double at the pump, double for daycare, etc. etc.. it sucks.

but on the other hand if a lot of people cash in their points and stop applying, then it works out for me in 3+ years when I start looking at drawing.

 

[FullCurlEarl]

I dont apply for everything. Just know that inflation sucks.

How many states you apply to every year?

Ok. What’s your thought now that you see the new prices.
I apply to a few.

 

[Mike D Texas]

I brought back pictures only - I will use taxidermy, shipping, etc. funds to fund another trip.

Ok knock off $1k per animal for taxi and $2k for shipping.

Still $30k.


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[onetohunt]

This is a non-ending conversation. The pp fee is just another way of putting off raising the cost of the actual tag. That will probably happen within the next 2 years. People (some) will not pay the pp fee and the loss of revenue will hit home and then will come the cost of increased tags, again. Not only that, but the number of non residents staying in some of these smaller towns will be missed and the hunting season profits will drop a little. This is just one big vicious circle.

 

[wapitibob]

This is a non-ending conversation. The pp fee is just another way of putting off raising the cost of the actual tag. That will probably happen within the next 2 years. People (some) will not pay the pp fee and the loss of revenue will hit home and then will come the cost of increased tags, again. Not only that, but the number of non residents staying in some of these smaller towns will be missed and the hunting season profits will drop a little. This is just one big vicious circle.

Wyoming has never seen a decrease in preference point revenue.

 

[Legend]

This is a perfect response. I too have no issue paying $4/ dozen eggs considering what I’ll pay for a bottle of whiskey. Same with gas as I wish it would increase to $5/gallon so they’d fix some roads. Heck, I pay $80k for a truck so what’s $100 per tank? Ammo could also be around $150/box as I really only need a couple shells per hunt.

I wish points would just go straight to bidding like an auction. That way I could just bid $700-1000 a year, win the points need, and go hunting that same year. Enough with buying points every year just to hunt 7-10 years later. Just let me pay it all upfront, so I can hunt!

That would make it one step closer to "The Kings Game." And everyone who enjoys hunting should be afraid of that....including yourself. IMO

The increase costs of apps are only tiny steps towards the game. But they are heading that way.

 

[MTBackroads]

Move to Wyoming and see how cheap it really is.

 

[Jethro]

the number of non residents staying in some of these smaller towns will be missed and the hunting season profits will drop a little

Do you actually believe that?

 

[BRTreedogs]

Move to Wyoming and see how cheap it really is.

It’s cheaper

 

[MTBackroads]

It’s cheaper

Sure it is.

 

[wapitibob]

For those wondering why the increase in NR PP fees, FY 2025 saw the Dept with a 5 million shortfall. FY 2026 isn't over and because of the fluid nature of their revenue streams, they have no way of knowing what the final tally will be. FY 2027 was budgeted at 98% of expected revenue and a Commissioner thought that was too tight and asked the Fiscal Dept how to generate revenue to increase that FY 2027 cushion.
In WY, the Commission is severely limited in what they can increase, one of those options is NR preference points, and Reduced Price licenses; they don't have authority to increase Full Price licenses. They can also establish new stamps and permits, but only up to a statute max of $15. So, not much for options. The Commission then asked the Fiscal Division to present additional revenue options at the April meeting, and they chose the NR PP version.

 

[BRTreedogs]

Sure it is.

What is Wyoming state income tax again?
How much is 87 gas rite now in Wyoming?

 

[cnelk]

What is Wyoming state income tax again?
How much is 87 gas rite now in Wyoming?

Get off the interstate and I paid $3.59 the other day

 

[307]

Move to Wyoming and see how cheap it really is.

Comments on the internet are easier.

 

[CMF]

For those wondering why the increase in PP fees, FY 2025 saw the Dept with a 5 million shortfall. FY 2026 isn't over and because of the fluid nature of their revenue streams, they have no way of knowing what the final tally will be. FY 2027 was budgeted at 98% of expected revenue and the Commission thought that was too tight and asked the Fiscal Dept how to generate revenue to increase that FY 2027 cushion.
In WY, the Commission is severely limited in what they can increase, one of those options is NR preference points, and Reduced Price licenses; they don't have authority to increase Full Price licenses. They can also establish new stamps and permits, but only up to a statute max of $15.
So, not much for options.

I guess there isn't many options when you only consider revenue. You mention "revenue" three times, and "increase" twice.
You never once mentioned "reducing" or "expenditures."
And that is what irritates people about the constant government increases in tags, taxes, etc. It's always easier to increase fees, taxes, etc., than actually look at things that might be excessive or wasteful and need to be cut.

 

[Jethro]

How much is 87 gas rite now in Wyoming?

3.93 - 4.21

 

[BRTreedogs]

3.93 - 4.21

$4.89 and up here

 

[MTBackroads]

What is Wyoming state income tax again?
How much is 87 gas rite now in Wyoming?

Lol, sounds like only an idiot wouldn't move to Wyoming and save piles of cash hunting. Why don't you live there already?

 

[sasquatch]

This is a non-ending conversation. The pp fee is just another way of putting off raising the cost of the actual tag. That will probably happen within the next 2 years. People (some) will not pay the pp fee and the loss of revenue will hit home and then will come the cost of increased tags, again. Not only that, but the number of non residents staying in some of these smaller towns will be missed and the hunting season profits will drop a little. This is just one big vicious circle.

Then raise the tag prices!

Raising the PP fee has a higher level of suck. However I’m not really complaining about the increase. Yea paying more sucks, but waiting in a OIL draw pool sucks wayyyy worse and an individual has no control over that!!

We all hate paying, but make the tags free and see how often you can draw!


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[mt terry d]

The pp fee is just another way of putting off raising the cost of the actual tag.

FY 2025 saw the Dept with a 5 million shortfall.

Or go the MT route and just sell more tags.

Trust the wildlife financial science