Wyoming 90/10 for elk

Geez, i just wanna hunt elk in wyoming , but the more I read this thread you guys are changing my mind . Especially the part about the weather it sounds nicer there in the winter than northern Minnesota
 
Gutshot007 said:
Geez, i just wanna hunt elk in wyoming , but the more I read this thread you guys are changing my mind . Especially the part about the weather it sounds nicer there in the winter than northern Minnesota
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Sure sounds better than upstate NY winters I grew up in as well
 
Dos Perros said:
No skeeters in the summer time too.
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We wait for spring /summer. Gets here and start it off with deer/ wood ticks, then transition to mosquitoes ( bad this year). Next is deerflies , horse flies and black flies with a little poison ivy thrown in for good measure. By then your wishing it would snow again. Look at the bright side we don't have poisonous snakes
 
This thread is pretty amusing as some who actually did what most are pontificating about. It ain't easy leaving family and moving somewhere you don't know another soul but your wife. Better put some pretty serious thought into whether or not your marriage can handle that, and if it's worth, if that's important to you. Is it doable? Yes of course. If you think you can scheme up some sort of idea to make it profitable and get residency have at I guess, but a quite a few post show some of you are way out of touch with reality.
 
Jimss said:
Here you go! A couple mobile homes in lander for less than $150,000. A few other small homes for $350kish. Some great homes for $600k!

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Now I fully subscribe to the let's work together mentality for residents and NR so we don't all get screwed over by outfitters and politicians. But let's look at this with some honesty.

If a guy only wants residency he doesn't need a 600k house. He needs an address where he spends some time, he needs to license his vehicles at that address, and get his mail sent there. On top of that he needs to claim Wyoming as his state of residency when filing taxes. . . People aren't monitoring your home. If you're retired you're expected to travel. Hell your expected to snow bird. Now all of that said you're look at this all wrong from a NR perspective. We already camp out or rent hotels to hunt, we already drive long distances.

So instead of Laramie, lander, Sheridan,. Think Torrington, lusk, Evanston, rock springs. All places where $250,000 will buy you plenty of house and you could get a place to stay for 100-150k. Right now I could buy a 2bd 1 bath in rock springs for 100k. Even if it needs 20k in work. I could rent it out and throw some cash at it and have it paid for in 10 years. Then I'm home free in retirement. Not saying I will but my wife and I want to own an RV for 7 or 8 years in early retirement to travel the US. Having a Wyoming address would be pretty easy during that time even if we still owned a home in Nebraska. Not to mention the tax benefits of calling Wyoming our home state.

It's not something tons of people will do, but if hunting gets hard enough to do, there are plenty of people with the means to do so!
 
String&stick said:
Now I fully subscribe to the let's work together mentality for residents and NR so we don't all get screwed over by outfitters and politicians. But let's look at this with some honesty.

If a guy only wants residency he doesn't need a 600k house. He needs an address where he spends some time, he needs to license his vehicles at that address, and get his mail sent there. On top of that he needs to claim Wyoming as his state of residency when filing taxes. . . People aren't monitoring your home. If you're retired you're expected to travel. Hell your expected to snow bird. Now all of that said you're look at this all wrong from a NR perspective. We already camp out or rent hotels to hunt, we already drive long distances.

So instead of Laramie, lander, Sheridan,. Think Torrington, lusk, Evanston, rock springs. All places where $250,000 will buy you plenty of house and you could get a place to stay for 100-150k. Right now I could buy a 2bd 1 bath in rock springs for 100k. Even if it needs 20k in work. I could rent it out and throw some cash at it and have it paid for in 10 years. Then I'm home free in retirement. Not saying I will but my wife and I want to own an RV for 7 or 8 years in early retirement to travel the US. Having a Wyoming address would be pretty easy during that time even if we still owned a home in Nebraska. Not to mention the tax benefits of calling Wyoming our home state.

It's not something tons of people will do, but if hunting gets hard enough to do, there are plenty of people with the means to do so!
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It's a saucy game to play. If you get outside of the rules and get caught it's not just a fine, they will go after your hunting privileges, and not just in wyoming. You will end up with a lawyer and court to keep them. False statements to get resdient tags are take very seriously and the wardens have spare time and the interwebs in the winter. Make sure you know the laws before you try to game the system.
 
This entire thread pretty much sums up the biggest issues in hunting and what sucks is we only have ourselves to blame because we all gobbled up every show, YouTube channel, scouting service, odds service and Eastman magezjne over the last two decades whiles sponsors sold more products and states realized a ponzie scheme for Elk and deer tags, and “conversation” orgs push for new members and new hunters to save hunting!
When it wouldn’t need saving if the blow hard YouTubers and instabros didn’t post the shit to begin with.

All the demand we’ve created by people saying “come out and hunt the west” this is your land” while being able to chopper into a place is now coming to fruition
And its now heading in a direction of pay to play or wait 20yrs

I’m not surprised and I bought in too for a while but noe realize what a shame it is

I definitely agree that trying to unlock the millions of acres of land being used Scott free by huge landowners would help disperse us but it’s a drop in the bucket really

Most of the world’s problems boil down to too many people, not enough resources or space. Better enjoy it while we can gents
 
Bighorner said:
It's a saucy game to play. If you get outside of the rules and get caught it's not just a fine, they will go after your hunting privileges, and not just in wyoming. You will end up with a lawyer and court to keep them. False statements to get resdient tags are take very seriously and the wardens have spare time and the interwebs in the winter. Make sure you know the laws before you try to game the system.
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I don’t think anyone wants to game the system, just stating it’s not as difficult as some say to obtain residency and yes there are requirements but the 1 yr requirement isn’t that you are there 100% of the time just that your main residence is there for a year but then remains your main residence. With remote work it’s becoming even easier to do and still skip most of winter if one wants.
 
Gutshot007 said:
Geez, i just wanna hunt elk in wyoming , but the more I read this thread you guys are changing my mind . Especially the part about the weather it sounds nicer there in the winter than northern Minnesota
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I moved from Lake of the Woods to Colorado in 1988.
Like I mentioned earlier, I moved because of the weather.

Wyoming aint got nuthin on N Minnesota weather
 
Bighorner said:
It's a saucy game to play. If you get outside of the rules and get caught it's not just a fine, they will go after your hunting privileges, and not just in wyoming. You will end up with a lawyer and court to keep them. False statements to get resdient tags are take very seriously and the wardens have spare time and the interwebs in the winter. Make sure you know the laws before you try to game the system.
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I'm not talking about gaming the system. I'm saying in retirement it's not overly difficult to establish residency. Yes you need to Cross your t's and Dot your i's. But to go by the book, and play the game, it's not overly burdensome. Your biggest issues is not claiming residency in another state in any form. (No residents tags somewhere else, no tax filings in another state, etc). Do a quick Google search, with Wyoming having no income tax there are plenty of retirees that do this. It's just not overwhelming because Florida is a much nicer option for many in their golden years!
 
Dos Perros said:
The skeeters one?
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No I've read enough of your posts to know you were probably joking. I'm sure you'll make the move and make it work just fine. Some of the other guys apear to be posting from an emotional angle of I'll show them residents, I'll move there. Good luck making it with that attitude.
 
204guy said:
No I've read enough of your posts to know you were probably joking. I'm sure you'll make the move and make it work just fine. Some of the other guys apear to be posting from an emotional angle of I'll show them residents, I'll move there. Good luck making it with that attitude.
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I'm a can't beat em join em kinda guy. No sense in getting emotional over things you can't control.

As we both mentioned, moving away from family will be the toughest part. Not for me (my family is all out of state now as it is), but my wife. Aside from that, we'd probably be there in a couple years if the schools were better. We have been on and off looking for real estate in Wyoming, not so much to be our forever spot, but just to get our foot in the market there. It's tough! But I understand that to be the case lots of places, know it is here.
 
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