WSJ - Lead Ammo Study and Eagle, Posted Feb 17, 2022

[JjamesIII]

Again, their link to ammo is anecdotal at best. They have ONLY one direct link with a shotgun projectile, nothing more, yet they break all the rules of science and state the connection of isotope typing as fact. They are simply lying. The bigger problem here is that this lie has been perpetuated in study after study after study.

And then here you are adding to the problem and attempting to spread the lie as truth.

Science is entering a new era where it doesn’t need to be proven to be accepted as fact. Like the media, opinions are validity.

 

[Bubblehide]

This is from the paper in Science published a few days ago, not the PNAS paper.

Once again, show us the DIRECT link to ammo

You simply want this to be ture soooooo badly; unfortunately for you, that is not the case.

 

[cubdriver84d]

Once again, show us the DIRECT link to ammo

You simply want this to be ture soooooo badly; unfortunately for you, that is not the case.

Why would I want it to be true? If there was compelling evidence that it’s not true, I’d happily switch back to lead for some of my hunting.

 

[Montana Slim]

Do I sound like one?

Not exactly

 

[Bubblehide]

Not exactly

Never thought you'd answer under a sock account. But anyway, your a funny guy.

 

[Zappaman]

After reading all this... I'll no longer leave cridders I shoot with lead (in my shotgun) laying around (coons mostly). I'll take it to the "coyote diner" (dump) on the side of town and toss it next to the dead cats and stuff (never seen an eagle there and I live right down the road so I'd see it if they were around).

But I'll still hunt with lead in my rifles as I always "take" my kills home to eat and the bullet is either still in the critter or exited *and is sitting on the ground somewhere with no incentive for ANYTHING to eat that lump of lead.

I went to TSS for waterfoul and upland mostly... so not an issue there either. But I'll keep shooting pheasant with my OLD 1912 baker SxS in lead (due to the barrel)... I'll try not to miss!

 

[Shraggs]

Science is entering a new era where it doesn’t need to be proven to be accepted as fact. Like the media, opinions are validity.

Yep. I’m old enough that that community was warning about the impending ice age…. Now global warming within a 30 year time span…. Toothpaste caused cancer…. Eating fat and cholesterol will cause a heart attack… Trump colluded with Russians too and….

Having a hypothesis is good fundamentals, unless it’s coming to prove an outcome.

This particular subject is out of my wheel house, but I do know lead is an element as part of our natural world, after all it collected to go in products including Bullets. Here our vast waters and rivers have had changing exposed lead.

Those birds may be during from lead but having a hard time accepting that the chief source is Bullets considering the natural earth exposures and millions of consumers products that have lead in them.

Not a practicing Six Sigma Black Belt anymore but can’t even begin to share how many “projects” came from senior executives to prove, yet they were really an outcome they wanted and needed the rational.

 

[jmez]

The UV exposure from the hole in the ozone layer must have fried your brain a little. No other explanation for leaving that humanitarian crisis off your list.

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[JjamesIII]

I'm originally from Iowa and would agree although I don't know what the population numbers are specifically. Visiting my folks over the holidays each year I'm astounded by the number of eagles perched up or in the fields over gut piles or road kill carcasses. I almost wonder if they are getting over populated in some areas?

Agree- in Ohio it was something to talk about if you saw a bald eagle. Now it’s very common. The anti-hunters are looking for a problem where one clearly does not exist. It’s just click bait.
I think they really get disappointed when they have to de-list species from the endangered species list, rather than being happy to have met their recovery objectives because then they lose leverage. Pet species, like the bald eagles, wolves, ect. are a poster child for their political agendas.

 

[lifeisgoodsteve]

Literally just watched the prairie dog I shot about 10 minutes ago get snatched up for a tasty dinner for this gorgeous raptor.

For hunting big game I'm not as concerned as I'll take out all meat of anything I'm fortunate enough to kill.

Regardless of scientific studies, it seems common sense to be considerate when small game hunting for animals we won't keep for food, to help scavengers avoid eating lead.

 

[Wolf_trapper]

Literally just watched the prairie dog I shot about 10 minutes ago get snatched up for a tasty dinner for this gorgeous raptor.

For hunting big game I'm not as concerned as I'll take out all meat of anything I'm fortunate enough to kill.

Regardless of scientific studies, it seems common sense to be considerate when small game hunting for animals we won't keep for food, to help scavengers avoid eating lead.


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Why did you shoot the gorgeous prairie dog?? You make sure you get all the lead fragments out of the gut cavity of the deer you shoot?

Notice a big decline in raptors lately? Nope, me either. Anti hunting propaganda.