Would you gamble on a gen 4 Tundra?

trazerr

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I want to start off by saying i have only owned Toyotas my entire life. Started on a 1st gen manual taco when i was 8. Kept it until i got a 3rd gen taco around age of 30.

I now have a 2024 Platinum Tundra with 8,600 miles on it. Just had more warranty work done on it today actually. 2nd door catch and the grill surround was peeling (common plat issue). I have had two window motors and window runs replaced. Other two windows need the same, but not as bad yet. Last tank was 12.4mpg running mild AT's half inch larger than stock (some remote starts and short short trips kill mpg's). Leg extender gets stuck if you retract it all the way in (TSB for that, but havent cared to have it done).

Engines are still spinning main bearings (even the recall long blocks/engine assemblies apparently). This is apparently due to the actual debris issue fix just happening in November of 2024. Recalled long blocks/engine assemblies started before then so some have heard that dealers have seen an issue with some. If you have one thats older than that then you still risk spinning the main. Mine has a 11/30/23 build date and i know of two others with the same build month that spun their main. Both at under 10k miles. Last July my dealer had a 2024 with 47 miles on it that spun its main bearing so it can happen at any time. However, the google spreadsheet floating around shows an average over 30k miles I heard. The holes were not drilled out properly and the little pieces can break off at any time.

I am pretty heavy on the tundra forum and chat with a few guys apparently really in the know (one got a few cease and desist orders from Toyota corporate even. The forum he posted stuff on also did). They have been pretty spot on with things as they progress. One bought a brand new short block and found debris in it as well as burs on some of the drilled oil passages that could come off randomly.

I still would by another one if i had to today. I really enjoy the truck and nothing else really catches my eye.

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2buffalo

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Roger that. Makes me feel a bit better!

Why are you going to sell it then, if you don’t mind me asking?

Dave
Mostly comfort. It's my wife's truck. Her complaints are the wind noise and the seats are uncomfortable. She had an F150 Lariat before so a Tundra is going backwards in those regards.
 

idahodave

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Mostly comfort. It's my wife's truck. Her complaints are the wind noise and the seats are uncomfortable. She had an F150 Lariat before so a Tundra is going backwards in those regards.
Makes sense. I have a Ford for my work truck and like it a LOT. I came real close to getting one over the Tundra, but couldn’t find one configured how I wanted for the price I wanted when trying to decide between it and the Tundra.

Dave
 

HNTR918

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22 with 45k and no issues.
Vin number is in the engine recall.
Going to drive it for as long as possible before getting the brand new engine.
 

Speaks

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Even setting aside any issues I dislike the change compared to the previous ones.

1) They shrunk the cab pretty substantially which is a minor annoyance up front but is a meaningful difference in the back

2) I dont like the move from a V8 to a turbo 6 unless there is a real upside in fuel economy. Long term it introduces a turbo system that will likely not survive the potential life of the truck, and a smaller engine working harder may well have some lifespan challenges as well

This was all traded off for a very marginal improvement in MPG.

I have driven tundras since 08 and will not be buying one of these when my 2017 dies.
 
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I always wait until a company releases a new gen of vehicle and buy the last gen new/used.
1. I save a ton of money vs. buying one off the lot.
2. All the recall type of issues are fixed.

I just bought a 22 Tacoma new/used so I would have to buy the gen 4 2024. The 2024 is ugly IMO, and there are many known MAJOR issues.
 
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I always wait until a company releases a new gen of vehicle and buy the last gen new/used.
1. I save a ton of money vs. buying one off the lot.
2. All the recall type of issues are fixed.

I just bought a 22 Tacoma new/used so I would have to buy the gen 4 2024. The 2024 is ugly IMO, and there are many known MAJOR issues.

Gen three 19-21 are more expensive than the 2022 models.


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johnw3474

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I have a 2024 SR5 with the TRD Off Road Package. I replaced a 2014 GMC Sierra z71 with 200k on it. This new Tundra is a much better riding vehicle, the motor feels much quicker, everything just feels tighter on it. My only complaint is all the damn sensors. You really have to study the manual to learn what buttons to press if you plan on going off road especially with a trailer. I wish I had gotten the SR truck that didn't have all the sensors.
 

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I'd prefer de-amplified. Every single time that constantly shifting transmission downshifts, or I barely push the go pedal, there's that irritating engine drone.

Is it really just a glorified version of this??

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StuckInTheEast

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From my discussions with toyota employees...I have not much faith in these newer ones. We'll see how they do once they start hitting over 100k miles on the regular.
From a repair standpoint, they will be expensive when they do break out of warranty...very over complicated under the hood. Having seen one torn down for a long block, I have no interest in doing that repair. Capable by all means, it just doesn't look like much fun.
Lots of potential failure points that require large labor times to repair. Having driven a few and contemplated buying one when they first came out
The biggest issues for me are:
-I can't do the looks of them. A lift and wheels/tires helps a little...but they have not grown on me at all since '22. Just plain don't like the look at all...thats totally subjective..to each their own.
- i don't think they drive well in comparison to the previous model...Im not keen on power deliver and the steering feels heavy and disconnected to me.
-too much going on on dash/interior...I like simple and functional. I drive to get from A to B...I need heat, air, few gauges and tunes...they catered way to hard to the calls for techy nonsense to try to keep up with the big 3 for the amount of unnecessary crap and features they could cram into the interior... Once again, subjective and I understand why they did it, I just don't like how. I hate modern vehicle infotainment systems. I dont need more apps for my apps and I hate the big screens in the dash.
-build quality is lacking...fit finish didn't overly impress me.
- THE DAMN EXHAUST COMES OUT ON THE WRONG SIDE!....petty, i know, but I don't like it.
-cab feels smaller, and I'm short...maybe it's an illusion, I've not looked at dimensions but jumping back in my 2nd gen crewmax right after first test drive on 3rd gen my 2016 felt much larger.
-The simple fact they are recalling so many low miles engines on under 3 year old trucks... and it's apparent that even the replacement engines are questionable as well...no thanks....I dont care how long it's warrantied, that doesn't build any faith in long term quality/reliability. Kudos to toyota for trying to make it right...but quite frankly that's too big of a F"%k up for me to give a pass on
At this point I might buy one in 10 years if I see enough of them survive to 200k+ .miles and still have life in them.

To you folks that have them...good luck, enjoy your trucks and I hope they serve you well....just not my cup of tea.
 
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