Would you gamble on a gen 4 Tundra?

[CMP70306]

Why all the hate on the new Tundras? I'm aware there was a possibility of a manufacturing QC problem that left some chips in the motor, but Toyota stepped up and made it right by putting a new motor in every truck possibly affected. Is there something else wrong with them or is it just stubborn people stuck in a rut?

I'm not emotional about trucks, they are just a tool to me. I have had a 23 Tundra for 2 years and it's at 73k miles. Many of those pulling an enclosed trailer. Zero issues so far.

As far the the V6 vs V8: time will tell on longevity, but this V6 will out pull the V8 in every aspect, plus it gets much better mileage and with the new 10 speed transmission is much smoother.

For us it was the Sequoia that pushed us away from Toyota, my Dad has been buying Sequoias for almost 20 years but the new redesign is such garbage that he couldn’t buy a new one. I mean seriously why design your largest 3 row SUV so that adults can barely fit in the back seat and only children can fit in the 3rd row. Not to mention that the third row does not lay in the floor like they had on the Gen 2 but instead sticks up taking up a considerable amount of cargo space. At this point unless you tow a trailer to haul your stuff I see zero reason to own the Sequoia over the Grand Highlander.

My brother and I have owned Tundras for over 10 years and between the awkward rear seat designs, smaller fuel tank and engine issues we are moving over to GMC instead. My brother wanted a gas truck that matched the features of his 2500 but with a better ride and I was moving from a truck to an SUV and since the new Sequoia is garbage I’m getting a Yukon XL so I actually have cargo space to fit my Gunner kennel with the rest of my stuff on our weekend trips.

 

[Dos Perros]

It depends what you are after. If it's a reliable truck that you can drive for a long time and slowly depreciates then the answer is emphatically NO. There is zero chance, ZERO chance, that the newer engines are as reliable as the older ones.

Couple that with the fact that vehicles produced in this time period have all sorts of 'fixes' hurriedly approved by engineering to keep to keep the line running in the face of COVID material shortages.

If you're a dude who wants the latest stuff and has the cash and no other use for it, sure. We'll pick you up and give you a ride to town when we see you!

 

[Mountain_Life]

I suppose it depends on the use case. The new gen of the Tundras picked up Lane assist, braking assist, adaptive cruise, brake hold, 360° camera, etc. If I was using this only for lots of off road or 2 track driving (I don't mean lifting it to pretend my daily city driver is an off road machine) I would stay with an older generation, but that's goes for any brand. The newer trucks are very on road feature rich. Which works great for most people but not all. For an everyday work truck, I appreciate the poly bed with built in rail system, 360 camera for tight spaces, more torque than a F250 gasser, large GPS screen, etc.

 

[Mountain_Life]

I have a BIL that has a Gen 2 tundra with 260k and he treats it like an ATV. I've never seen a truck get abused as much as that one and it's had zero motor/transmission issues. Other than some wheel bearings or other wear items it has been problem free. He just checked his rear diff fluid for the first time ever and there was no fluid, just a tiny bit of peanut butter type sludge on the bottom. I agree with the opinion that there is no truck as reliable/durable as those.

But to pay more for one of those vs the new gen for primarily on highway use seems like a stretch.

 

[Jbehredt]

Why all the hate on the new Tundras? I'm aware there was a possibility of a manufacturing QC problem that left some chips in the motor, but Toyota stepped up and made it right by putting a new motor in every truck possibly affected. Is there something else wrong with them or is it just stubborn people stuck in a rut?

I'm not emotional about trucks, they are just a tool to me. I have had a 23 Tundra for 2 years and it's at 73k miles. Many of those pulling an enclosed trailer. Zero issues so far.

As far the the V6 vs V8: time will tell on longevity, but this V6 will out pull the V8 in every aspect, plus it gets much better mileage and with the new 10 speed transmission is much smoother.

Latest position is only the safety recalled vehicles are getting new engines. The hybrids are still unknown. They have the same issue but can safely come to a stop without the IC engine running. I’d guess Toyota will make it right across the board but it seems they’ve got lawyers and accountants running the show now with the engineers along for the ride. Just like GM and ford.

 

[Crusader]

This one too.

Some good deals out there.

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Holy smokes that's a lot of miles for a 3-year old truck....

 

[jags]

I picked up a 24 SR5, crewmax cab and 6.5' bed. Have just 6,000 miles on it now and love it. Two trips from MT to SD for pheasant hunting and it's great driving down the highway, avg like 17/18 round trip.

I had totaled a 17 GMC Sierra and really liked that truck but had just put a new transmission in it a couple of months before. They all have some issues, I wouldn't start googling unless you don't want to buy a new one.

 

[IdahoElk]

Not a question on if but when the motor goes kaboom

 

[180ls1]

They are all a gamble anymore to some extent.

 

[Megalodon]

Gen 4??? Are you planning ahead for buying a 2037 model?

 

[ODB]

I picked up a 24 SR5, crewmax cab and 6.5' bed. Have just 6,000 miles on it now and love it. Two trips from MT to SD for pheasant hunting and it's great driving down the highway, avg like 17/18 round trip.

I had totaled a 17 GMC Sierra and really liked that truck but had just put a new transmission in it a couple of months before. They all have some issues, I wouldn't start googling unless you don't want to buy a new one.

I thought there were getting in the low-mid 20s? I get 17/18 easy in my ‘21

 

[jags]

I thought there were getting in the low-mid 20s? I get 17/18 easy in my ‘21

I can, depending where I drive. But coming back from the flatlands to MT, against the wind at 80+mph on interstate takes a bit of a hit.

 

[big44a4]

I’ve had 3 tundras from 2016-2020 all 5.7 V8 with zero issues but decided to go with 3.0 Duramax for mpg as I drive 60k miles a year for work. All new trucks can have issues I got buddies who love the new tundra just fine with no issues. I also have no issues with the 3.0 and cut my gas bill in half.

 

[Oregon]

Those new tundras are fugly.
I have a 2018 and treat it just like a sxs. 90k miles on it and I think I’m going to start babying it, because the new ugly tundras aren’t an option.

 

[idahodave]

Just an observation....

The people singing the praises of the new Tundra seem to be the ones that actually own one and are actively driving one...or at least personally know someone who is.

Those disparaging them seem to be doing so off of speculation.

All of which seems to be consistent with a lot of topics around here. Drive and buy whatever makes you happy I suppose.

Dave

 

[fmyth]

They are all a gamble anymore to some extent.

Buddies 2 year old Chevy Silverado1500 w the 5.3 just went boom at 37k miles. Lost a lifter, wiped out the cam and sent metal throughout the engine. After 4 weeks of fighting with GM they have decided to help him out since he has been a "loyal GM customer" for many years. So far they are expecting his total bill to be close to 8k after GM pays half. I told him to have it towed to my house and we'd drop a new GM long block in it for 6k. He is going to let them rebuild it. They said they can do it in a week which tells me they are not rebuilding it correctly. No way to get machine work, block boiled, heads surfaced etc in less than a week unless you personally own a machine shop. I'm betting they're going to spray it out w parts cleaner and only replace the broken parts. No way I'd trust that truck after a half assed rebuild.

 

[Jakerex]

Don’t be scared. Any truck you buy could grenade, at least Toyota will replace your engine.

2005 frame and rear end rusted out. 175k miles

22 with 22k, no issues, but it is getting a new engine under the recall

25 with only 3k. No issues this far


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[Jakerex]

Don’t be scared. Any truck you buy could grenade, at least Toyota will replace your engine.

2005 frame and rear end rusted out. 175k miles

22 with 22k, no issues, but it is getting a new engine under the recall

25 with only 3k. No issues this far


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[Uncle Goonie]

I wouldn't be scared of it if it had a warranty or had the engine replaced and I wouldn't hesitate to get a late 24 or 25 as the engine issues appears to not affect those. I'd prefer a 20 or 21, great trucks that rarely break and are pretty easy to work on if they do compared to a twin turbo model.
Fanboy here, two 4runners and a tacoma here at home that just keep on running.

 

[Maverick1]

There are some pretty good deals out there on 22-24 Tundras right now. Is it worth the gamble?

If you a buying I will be driving it!!! Currently in a 4th Gen V8 4Runner, I like it.