Would you buy this scope?

[chamois]

This old man's eyes would prefer a little bit of power, and a larger bell. Let's say 3-15x50 would be perfecto for me.
And with a simple, well thought, MIL reticle.

 

[z987k]

This old man's eyes would prefer a little bit of power, and a larger bell. Let's say 3-15x50 would be perfecto for me.
And with a simple, well thought, MIL reticle.

Doesn't that exist already though?

 

[chamois]

Doesn't that exist already though?

Make it a 3,5-14x51 then, thus keeping the 4 factor.

 

[Dobermann]

Quick search of the posts in this thread shows that several members would buy several scopes, if closer to $1000.

Not trying the derail the mission here, but that would be encouraging simply in terms of volume or as a follow up model.

I have no data to support this, but my guess is ~$1200 would be the max for many people, with 12x. Especially outside of the Rok fan club.

Perhaps ... but then the question becomes whether one is wanting to create a scope for 'many people', or if creating the ultimate scope is the goal, and then letting people find the value in it.

In any case, the two most comparable scopes (in terms of concept, if not execution) are likely the RS 1.2, a direct-to-consumer product at $1200 list, but can be had for less during sales and LE/MIL discount; and the LHRS 2, which weirdly lists on Bushnell's site for $1615.45 (where you can't purchase it), but at GA Precision for $959. So presumably $950 - $1200 is completely doable.

The other reference point (close in execution, but not in concept, perhaps) would be the Tenmile 3-18, with a list price of $2300-ish, but fairly easy to purchase for $1500-ish, and sometimes on sale for less - perhaps suggesting a point that works for both seller and purchaser.

Frank also had a podcast where he talked about the actual production costs of scopes versus retail, and how the large mark-ups were part of the influx of new brand names, marketed by people who knew nothing about precision shooting, hunting, or optics ... There must be what, at least 10 of these new brands in the last few years alone. The flipside of this is that scopes that have sligthly better quality specs can still come in at reasonable retail prices if the margins are not so astronomically high.

 

[IDHoundsman]

Scope specs:

FFP 3-12x40 to 3-12x44mm

Consistently holds zero through 3-foot drops and 3,000 rounds of constant use.

The reticle is specially designed for 25 to 600 yards, with bold outer posts and correct center aiming references.

Zero Stop

Low profile top turret.

Capped windage.

Large eye box

Good glass

20oz


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Yes, with a locking turret with zero stop. I don’t like the idea of a turret turning going in and out of a saddle scabbard.

 

[swavescatter]

I just bought a Nightforce NXS 2.5-10 MIL-R. Reticle could be better and it’s SFP, but at 20 oz will make perfect for my “truck gun” build.

$1600 though so still pretty high in cost.

 

[UnckleBob]

Scope specs:

FFP 3-12x40 to 3-12x44mm

Consistently holds zero through 3-foot drops and 3,000 rounds of constant use.

The reticle is specially designed for 25 to 600 yards, with bold outer posts and correct center aiming references.

Zero Stop

Low profile top turret.

Capped windage.

Large eye box

Good glass

20oz


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No. I want to be able to dial for windage

 

[UnckleBob]

I just bought a Nightforce NXS 2.5-10 MIL-R. Reticle could be better and it’s SFP, but at 20 oz will make perfect for my “truck gun” build.

$1600 though so still pretty high in cost.

When I think of truck gun builds, I don't think of Nightforce NXS scopes being in the picture. I am a poor. On my budget, I think Meopta Optika 5.

 

[The Guide]

No. I want to be able to dial for windage

Remove the windage cap and dial away.

Jay

 

[peaceful_ruler]

2-10X42, SFP, mil/mil, <16 oz, capped windage, locking elevation, TMR .5 mil style reticle...

 

[UnckleBob]

Remove the windage cap and dial away.

Jay

Without a zero stop, there is a 100% chance my ADD will kick in and I will f @@@ something up.

I am looking for that scope right now.

 

[The Guide]

Without a zero stop, there is a 100% chance my ADD would kick in and I would f @@@ something up.

I've honestly never seen a windage knob with a zero stop.

Jay

 

[Marbles]

I've honestly never seen a windage knob with a zero stop.

Jay

It would not work, unless the wind always blew right to left.

 

[The Guide]

It would not work, unless the wind always blew right to left.

Exactly. Capped or push lock/pull to turn is the way for windage.

Jay

 

[Beetroot]

I've honestly never seen a windage knob with a zero stop.

Jay

They do exist, only let's you dial a certain amount in each direction.

Zero stop isn't really the right name for it, more like a revolution limiter.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

They do exist, only let's you dial a certain amount in each direction.

Zero stop isn't really the right name for it, more like a revolution limiter.

A well designed hunting reticle negates the need for dialing for windage. I used to do the same as you, especially on long range and varmint comps where time was not limited. Switching to hold over with a well designed MIL reticle is the way.

 

[Beetroot]

A well designed hunting reticle negates the need for dialing for windage. I used to do the same as you, especially on long range and varmint comps where time was not limited. Switching to hold over with a well designed MIL reticle is the way.

I was just pointing out they exist.

I don't dial for windage, my preference is 100% capped, I can live with locking but exposed is just a liability.

 

[lak2004]

I'd buy it

 

[eLightfoot]

Where are we at with this @Ryan Avery ?
Keep it under $1k and everyone will buy one or more.

 

[UnckleBob]

Remove the windage cap and dial away.

Jay

I just ordered a Lieca Amplus 6 I found on sale.