S2H Scope Interest

[Ice-kub]

Came from page 13, now we're debating that changing to MIL from MOA too fast could make you a mass murderer? Hahahaha good lord

 

[Axlrod]

Forget all of that. Make a scope without internal adjustments at all and put the adjustments in the mounts with no graduations and we all have to figure it out for ourselves by screwing windage screws like the old Redfield mounts. When those are set we can lock the windage parts with set screws and hold wind in the reticle. Elevation should be one knob and one side of the mount is marked in mils, the other side is marked in moas.

(Once upon a time I've done the math to spitball how far to move a Redfield windage rear ring - don't really want to again)

I almost raised that point the other day but feared it would sound like trolling.

Dang. Missed opportunity.

There is no one on here that beleives you aren't always trolling, as they scroll past your many paragraphs!
And you haven't missed too many opportunities- you have exercised 1389 of them in 8 months.

 

[Chris in TN]

There is no one on here that beleives you aren't always trolling, as they scroll past your many paragraphs!
And you haven't missed too many opportunities- you have exercised 1389 of them in 8 months.

I’m particularly glad that these other posters were here today to read that post......it expresses a courage little seen in this day and age.

 

[streamerfish]

Let’s just step back and use some common business sense. I am saying this MIL THLR reticle S2H scope will be what it is. But if you are trying to convince me that Ryan and Form, just out of principle, will prevent ZT from applying the reliable drop proof design to other models or moa scopes, you are bat shit crazy. ZT is in this to make money. Also, wouldn’t this be what everyone wants? Companies like ZT to push create some competition with NF and Trijicon and SWFA? Why are people so passionate about MIL vs MOA? I shoot both and kill a bunch of critters with both.

ahhhh...ok.

Well, that's really two different conversations.

Sure, I would agree that Zero Tech can probably use the general designs of the scope body itself. I mean, they could have at any time before now also.....along with any other company that LOW builds scopes for.

Their is already multiple scopes on the market that LOW builds, that other companies sell, that are reliably drop proof, with at least somewhat similar specs, in both MIL and MOA reticles of different kinds. So yeah, I'm sure if they choose they can build a Zero Tech scope, of similar specs, with some kind of MOA reticle, and compete with everyone else in that general space. That isn't anything hugely unique, and nothing has ever stopped them from doing this.

But to be pretty obvious, what everyone is talking about here, is the S2H version of the scope with the modified THLR reticle. That is the "project". What everyone is saying, is that the chances of seeing a scope with S2H badging, with the modified THLR reticle in MOA is basically nothing......

The reticle makes the scope......without the reticle, it still appears to be a good scope at a good price, but its nothing hugely unique.

Maybe we will find out at some point, but I would guess it was some kind of concession to just have the "standard" MIL reticle also in the scope.

 

[Rock’N Tacos]

You are clueless. ZeroTech won’t be doing any such thing unless we say so.

Apparently one of us is clueless but it isn’t me…I guess the guys investing the money didnt loop you in chief. Apparently they are going to add an MOA version quickly. From Unknown Munitions post on the other thread:

 

[glock233]

Apparently one of us is clueless but it isn’t me…I guess the guys investing the money didnt loop you in chief. Apparently they are going to add an MOA version quickly. From Unknown Munitions post on the other thread:

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Don’t antagonize the guy who’s putting in the thankless shitty work to make things better for us.

Anyway your point is non-responsive. The UM post is about the circumstances where they’d tell ZT to make an MOA. Form’s point is that ZT won’t be doing anything like without S2H agreement, and that still stands.

 

[Ryan Avery]

Guys, I can assure you that there won't be an MOA version of this scope anytime soon. So let's keep this thread about the scope that is coming out.

 

[ofl0926]

In for one possibly two


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[Rock’N Tacos]

Don’t antagonize the guy who’s putting in the thankless shitty work to make things better for us.

Anyway your point is non-responsive. The UM post is about the circumstances where they’d tell ZT to make an MOA. Form’s point is that ZT won’t be doing anything like without S2H agreement, and that still stands.

Did you not read this post? MOA was a concern Jake had and they agreed to roll one out QUICKLY after the first couple runs. Its a done deal according to Jake bud.

 

[glock233]

Guys, I can assure you that there won't be an MOA version of this scope anytime soon. So let's keep this thread about the scope that is coming out.

Fair enough. I’d make a mil version first too. I’ll buy one in the first batch anyway.

 

[ofl0926]

Is there an estimated time frame for the preorder?


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[Nilgai]

I'll order at least one

 

[nm.otter]

Is there an estimated time frame for the preorder?

After the testing is complete.

 

[Kimber7man]

Sitting in the eastern Caribbean rn, decided to kill time reading this thread. Took me two beverages to catch up.
Thanks to the guys who steered me straight a few pages ago!

 

[darcytribe]

Guys, I can assure you that there won't be an MOA version of this scope anytime soon. So let's keep this thread about the scope that is coming out.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!

 

[eltorro]

I realize I will have to continuously state this- but there is no profit for me for this scope.

@Formidilosus maybe you should. And so should Thomas. The venture and the brains behind this need to be both compensated.

 

[Brandon_SPC]

I dig the size. Can't wait to see what the reticles look like with this 3-18.

 

[glock233]

I got to extensively handle a sample. The reticle is really good. It focuses you quickly and clearly has many tricks up its sleeve. The build quality feels quite good.

The glass and overall quality is comparable, in my very subjective opinion, to many~ $1,500 scopes. It’s that clearly below Razor, Swarovovski, and Zeiss, but clearly above Viper, SWFA, Trijicon space. IMO it’s exactly what you need for hunting.

Comparing it side by side with a Nightforce NX8, I felt the NX8 only had a slight glass clarity advantage. They felt similarish in an exhibit hall.

This is a phenomenal value at $999. It’s the ultimate hunting scope under $1k.

 

[Jmort1754]

What are the reticle options again?

 

[stanley_white]

This looks dreamy except I need locked or capped elevation.

-Stan