Why every liberal millennial.......

[Marbles]

You must be a peach at parties. I studied critical practice and rhetoric too, but then I remembered Orwell and promptly tossed it. Remember: short words, no cliches, no fluff, clear ideas free of filigree.

I can kill any party. But, technical precision and the big words needed to have it sure comes in handy when the metal meets the meat. Remember words have meanings, human communication is muddy enough without trying to boil it down to the third grade writing level of journalism.

 

[street]

Group identity labeled->group identity criticized by other group identity->desire to defend own group identity->attack the other group identity->loop indefinitely

 

[ODB]

I can kill any party. But, technical precision and the big words needed to have it sure comes in handy when the metal meets the meat. Remember words have meanings, human communication is muddy enough without trying to boil it down to the third grade writing level of journalism.

Communication is muddied precisely because people use big words when a small word will do - Orwell.


This is where most post-modern critique teachers fail students. They entice them to use words that are absolutely meaningless to convey ideas they can’t explain without them. Which means how can they really hold an idea that they can’t explain without meaningless words? Again, and finally: Orwell.

For those wondering what 1984 or Animal Farm have to do with this, the answer is: nothing.

The greatest essay ever written on this idea is his Politics and English Language.

 

[Akwoodchuck]

Communication is muddied precisely because people use big words when a small word will do - Orwell.


This is where most post-modern critique teachers fail students. They entice them to use words that are absolutely meaningless to convey ideas they can’t explain without them. Which means how can they really hold an idea that they can’t explain without meaningless words? Again, and finally: Orwell.

For those wondering what 1984 or Animal Farm have to do with this, the answer is: nothing.

The greatest essay ever written on this idea is his Politics and English Language.

One of my biggest peeves is people overusing the word 'actually'....which some people do a LOT. It makes me grind my teeth... my kids know this, and they will use it five times in a sentence just to piss me off, lol

 

[5MilesBack]

I have the same conversation with my kid. “A quarter what?” “A quarter is 25 cents, it’s 25 till 1?”

Some real rocket scientists there.....lol. "A quarter what?" A quarter hour.........duh.

 

[CorbLand]

Each generation is picked on, it’s just that it seems the older generations handled it better.

I would disagree with this statement. I have seen some of the boomer generation get pretty worked up over little things. I got "put in my place" as a boomer generation guy put it, when I cracked a joke about cheap fuel and houses. Had the same thing happen when cracking a joke about big deer around every tree. I have said it for years, every generation are a bunch of "snowflakes" the "triggered" topic is just different.

Every generation is more entitled than the last one. Every generation has had it easier than the last one. Its the way the human race has lived since the beginning. Its also a lot easier to blame someone else, in this case an entire generation, than to actually come up with solutions.

Now, which generation do I feel the most bad for? Gen Y. Those bastards wont ever know what good music truly is.

 

[Poser]

It’s still interesting to me that Gen X is so largely ignored in the generational conversations. It’s Boomers and Millennials. Boomers gave Gen X a lot of shit in the 90s (“slackers” who “work” from home), but that’s all but dried up. Gen X could set the world on fire and Boomers and Millennials would still be blaming one another.

 

[KyleR1985]

You’re killing me man! I have the same conversation with my kid. “A quarter what?” “A quarter is 25 cents, it’s 25 till 1?”

There is another nefarious part of digital clocks - there is no physical indication of the passing of time. The next hour is at some abstract moment when the numbers change, not when the hand reaches the 12. It has caused serious time- management issues with my kid. And yes, she has analog watches, but it’s a chore to get her to use them.

maybe your kid is awesome, and doesn’t subscribe to the notion that the space time continuum is The foundation of the universe as we know it! Many physicists would agree with her!

 

[Newtosavage]

Bullshit.

okay boomer

 

[Newtosavage]

It’s still interesting to me that Gen X is so largely ignored in the generational conversations. It’s Boomers and Millennials. Boomers gave Gen X a lot of shit in the 90s (“slackers” who “work” from home), but that’s all but dried up. Gen X could set the world on fire and Boomers and Millennials would still be blaming one another.

Shhh! I'm totally okay with that.

A lot of what I see from the angry boomers (aka the most fortunate generation in the history of the earth if they were lucky enough to be born white Americans) is a defense mechanism. Best defense is a good offense. Nobody wants to admit they are part of a group that has been given more advantages than any other group. Nobody. So those are often the same ones that most vocally criticize other groups as a defense mechanism.

But digging even deeper, sometimes it's individuals within that group who feel like they missed out on their generations prosperity, and so they are lashing out. I see some of that too.

16bore will be along to tell me that's "bullshit" in 3...2...1...

 

[ODB]

maybe your kid is awesome, and doesn’t subscribe to the notion that the space time continuum is The foundation of the universe as we know it! Many physicists would agree with her!

maybe! But she can be Einstein on her OWN time!!!

 

[16Bore]

okay boomer

Identifying characteristics is not discrimination.

And it’s Gen X for the record.

 

[Poser]

Shhh! I'm totally okay with that.

A lot of what I see from the boomers (aka the most fortunate generation in the history of the earth if they were lucky enough to be born white Americans) is a defense mechanism. Best defense is a good offense. Nobody wants to admit they are part of a group that has been given more advantages than any other group. Nobody. So those are often the same ones that most vocally criticize other groups as a defense mechanism.

16bore will be along to tell me that's "bullshit" in 3...2...1...

I agree. Not to say they didn’t have hardships, but, for example, my friend’s Boomer father was an appliance repairman for Sears. Single family income with a stay at home mom, 2 kids, owned a home, 2 cars and took family vacations. You’d be hard pressed to transpose that scenario upon Gen X, much less Millennials, with any sort of connection to reality.

Also, imagine the world where Gen X did not progress the notion of coffee and we were still drinking Boomer appropriate coffee.

 

[Poser]

 

[Newtosavage]

Also, imagine the world where Gen X did not progress the notion of coffee and we were still drinking Boomer appropriate coffee.

Don't scare me like that.

 

[Newtosavage]

For the record, my father-in-law for the past 30 years has been the most prototypical angry white male boomer you can even imagine. Born into an upper middle class family. Paid off his college working weekends. Landed a good paying job straight out of college and immediately bought a house that increased 3x in value in the 60's-70's. Two cars in the garage plus a ski boat and RV all before 30. Sent all the kids to college and was at his earning and investment peak during the mutual fund boom of the 90's.

But if you even give him the slightest window of opportunity, he will tell you how oppressed he is, how every person of color is trying to sponge off him, how immigrants are the real problem, how he pays too much in taxes, yada, yada, yada, all while he owns two homes and has been debt free for 20 years.

In other words, nothing like what the three following generations will experience.

Did I say anywhere above that he didn't work hard? No, no I didn't. But I know Gen X'ers, Millennials and now Gen Z'ers who are working their asses off, are smarter AND better people than he is, and who won't ever have the opportunity he had. Funny thing is, they won't bitch as much as he does either.

 

[Where's Bruce?]

how Is someone born in 45 a boomer??

Makes no sense.

They are not. Baby Boomers are 1946-1964. I am one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers

 

[Billinsd]

I can kill any party. But, technical precision and the big words needed to have it sure comes in handy when the metal meets the meat. Remember words have meanings, human communication is muddy enough without trying to boil it down to the third grade writing level of journalism.

Is that me talking? Do I have two accounts. God I love this forum, there are a few people in the world like me and they are on this forum. Great minds think a like by the way!

 

[Marbles]

Communication is muddied precisely because people use big words when a small word will do - Orwell.

This is where most post-modern critique teachers fail students. They entice them to use words that are absolutely meaningless to convey ideas they can’t explain without them. Which means how can they really hold an idea that they can’t explain without meaningless words? Again, and finally: Orwell.

Funny, as Orwell is known for making up meaningless terms such as 'doublethink' and 'unperson.'

Note, I have no problem with the creation of terms to fill a void. However, when a person can't hold to their own prescriptions, it does give cause to question.

Also, what exactly is a "post-modern critique teacher" this is dangerously close to "words that are absolutely meaningless to convey ideas (one) can't explain without them." The same can be said for your earlier redefining of millennial from a generation, to a style of acting. Something that is not supported by common definitions, nor by how it is being used, and is a circular idea that makes the word meaningless.

 

[5MilesBack]

Some of us are math guys......we just play the odds. Stereotypes are called that for a reason......because of stereotypical behaviors. Odds are if you fall into a category of whatever, that you exhibit behaviors that are stereotypical of that category.........those are just the odds. Otherwise there wouldn't be any stereotypes for that category.

Are there exceptions? Absolutely. But when you play the odds, you're right much more often than you're wrong. There's a reason why Vegas always wins.....because in the long run, odds always play out in their favor. But in their case, sometimes the odds are barely above 50/50 depending on how and what you play. For stereotypes.......the odds are much higher than that.