Why do some Sellers insist on Friends And Family PayPal Payment Mode ?

[Murdy88]

I’m very new here but this is a struggle with all forums; you’d like the classifieds experience of dealing with vetted and involved forum members, but there are constant threads complaining about the requirements to sell. No one seems to get that forum classifieds aren’t meant to be an EBAY but a community exchange. I know myself and some friends will usually list items on frequented forums for a better deal, because it’s going to someone with like interest and involvement but, also the ease of the sale. Hints the F&F push…

 

[Steve300xcw]

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What exactly do you think a mod on a talk forum is going to do, if a deal does go sideways on them?

 

[Team4LongGun]

DO NOT pay F&F unless they are friends and family. If you do, you are on your own if its a scam.

 

[Steve300xcw]

It makes me laugh a little, how much you guys are relying on paypal to protect you.

Do a little research on the guy and then send it

 

[dsotm]

I’ve never had a problem with F&F as long as it’s a poster that’s been around for a while and seems legit. If you click through their posts and they seem like AI or really bad English it’s probably a scam.

 

[Ucsdryder]

I've refunded payments that were g&s immediately on receiving them. I have no desire to do the tax thing.

Same. Annoying when someone agrees to FF and they send PayPal GS.

 

[Seth]

I’ve casually bought and sold off of here for years, and it’s always been a great experience. It’s not tough to check feedback, posts, and if needed, a video call. My preference, if it’s a more expensive item I typically won’t deal with an FNG. I generally pay F&F, unless the seller requests otherwise. Maybe it’s changed, but the first few items I sold G&S, PayPal held onto the money for 60 days or some BS. As a seller, I’m not going to take all of the risk. I have good feedback and a solid history here. If that’s not good enough, I’ll sell to someone else.

 

[realunlucky]

Lots of people get scammed doing FF simply because the seller is a great member only they didn't implement two stage verification and some one hacked thier account placed a bunch of great deals in the classifieds and ripped off other members who now have zero recourse.

There are plenty on this thread lobbying the greatness of FF who currently have an venerable account.

Simply put using friends and family puts you at risk if your not friends and family.

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[Steve300xcw]

How do y'all handle it when something shows up and there is a difference of opinion on the condition? Or mere blemishes during shipping?


I had a guy drop a 6x SS into a box an send it. Didnt wrap it or anything......

 

[sndmn11]

Lots of people get scammed doing FF simply because the seller is a great member only they didn't implement two stage verification and some one hacked thier account

Is there a way for someone to tell if another person is using 2FA, or any other account securing measures?

 

[fisherman983]

I insist because things are already expensive and I'm not paying fees on top of the taxes I already paid for the money I earned to buy nice things. Either trust me or don't and go elsewhere.
I only try to buy items from people who are known users or have sold multiple items. I'll take the risk until I get burned but I feel like users on this forum are pretty straight up.

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[TheViking]

Got a tax form from PayPal just today actually. Nothing was over $600 at once, but I accepted a pile of smaller G&S payments throughout the year and it apparently went over the threshold. NOT happy at all! I will no longer be accepting G&S payments going forward.

Reading through this thread, I now understand why - it’s not just transactions over $600, which I thought the rule was, it’s a total for the year. I even had a guy make multiple payments for something large in smaller increments so an individual transaction wasn’t over $600. 100% on me - my bad, guess I didn’t understand it completely. Lesson learned, never again.

 

[Jake Larsen]

Lots of people get scammed doing FF simply because the seller is a great member only they didn't implement two stage verification and some one hacked thier account placed a bunch of great deals in the classifieds and ripped off other members who now have zero recourse.

There are plenty on this thread lobbying the greatness of FF who currently have an venerable account.

Simply put using friends and family puts you at risk if your not friends and family.

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A text, video call, or phone call solves that problem. It’s real easy to tell if you’re talking to a scammer…


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[realunlucky]

A text, video call, or phone call solves that problem


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Definitely helps make a more informed decision and wither to proceed or not

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[TheViking]

A text, video call, or phone call solves that problem. It’s real easy to tell if you’re talking to a scammer…


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This is what I require when buying something moderately expensive. A 2 minute FaceTime call to prove they have the item, and quick once over.

 

[realunlucky]

Is there a way for someone to tell if another person is using 2FA, or any other account securing measures?

No not currently

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[Jake Larsen]

This is what I require when buying something moderately expensive. A 2 minute FaceTime call to prove they have the item, and quick once over.

It’s been foolproof for me. Had two different scams tried on me. Both got real squirrelly and backed out once I pushed for a call


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[realunlucky]

How do y'all handle it when something shows up and there is a difference of opinion on the condition? Or mere blemishes during shipping?


I had a guy drop a 6x SS into a box an send it. Didnt wrap it or anything......

Those situations are the worst. What's "good" and is it truly different from user to user?

It's one of the reasons classifieds are such a headache and time suck for moderators

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[Steve300xcw]

It's one of the reasons classifieds are such a headache and time suck for moderators

how so?

 

[fngTony]

How do y'all handle it when something shows up and there is a difference of opinion on the condition? Or mere blemishes during shipping?


I had a guy drop a 6x SS into a box a send it. Didnt wrap it or anything......

I’ve only had one difficult member out of a couple handfuls of that situation.