Who here doesn’t shoot beyond 300yrds ?

[OXN939]

The cold bore challenge is a great data set for this. First round hits are iffy past 400 yards from field positions for most shooters.

Even for the guys who are not most shooters and practice LR regularly... how many of them can consistently make cold bore first round hits past 500 on a potentially moving MOA sized target while sleep deprived, wet and cold with an elevated heart rate from a field expedient position using a sane hunting rig? To my knowledge, there aren't a lot of shooting events in which guys are tested under those circumstances- despite the fact that some or all of those are present in almost every shot opportunity while backcountry hunting.

 

[Tanner]

Even for the guys who are not most shooters and practice LR regularly... how many of them can consistently make cold bore first round hits past 500 on a potentially moving MOA sized target while sleep deprived, wet and cold with an elevated heart rate from a field expedient position using a sane hunting rig? To my knowledge, there aren't a lot of shooting events in which guys are tested under those circumstances- despite the fact that some or all of those are present in almost every shot opportunity while backcountry hunting.

When was the last time you hunted big game that had a 1 MOA vitals zone ?

 

[OXN939]

When was the last time you hunted big game that had a 1 MOA vitals zone ?

Never because I set a personal MER of 350. But if you're shooting at a Pronghorn at 800 yards, even the edge of MOA could cause a shot that is bad enough to keep you from recovering.

 

[Tanner]

Never because I set a personal MER of 350. But if you're shooting at a Pronghorn at 800 yards, even the edge of MOA could cause a shot that is bad enough to keep you from recovering.

Never… ‘cause there isn’t a game animal worth chasing that has an MOA sized vitals zone at 500 yards (your original yardage example)….

All of these hypotheticals and moral superiority soap boxes are great, but for the dudes that shoot a lot, keep track of their gear/fitness/rifle zero’s and dope….. it just isn’t that difficult to slip a bullet into the vitals on a deer, elk, goat, ram, bear at 600 and in.

Carry on with the mental masturbation quests though.

Tanner

 

[ReaptheHeat]

Depends on where you hunt. For us that live out west and consistently hunt open sage country longer shots sometimes happen. Most shots are 100-250 for me, but sometimes shots in the 450-500 yd range open and you can't do anything about it.