Which scope as a new host for the THLR reticle?

[HighUintas]

Maybe swfa will. They recently made some statement about focusing on their own scopes and I think said they're working on something new

 

[Dobermann]

For whatever it's worth, Form's 'recipe' post in the OP received 62 likes. Add Form and we have 63. I'm willing to bet Thomas would be in as well. Let's round that up to 65. Assuming everyone who gave a like wanted to put their money where their mouth was, and put this on, let's say, 2 rifles (perhaps two calibres, or theirs and a partner's, kid's, etc), then that's 130 scopes.

Pretty sure Thomas could generate at least another 100 sales if he did some videos on it. So let's say there's a baseline market for 250 of these things ... surely with the right marketing and rave reviews from all of us, we could multiply that out to 1000 sales. No?

How many scopes did Form say the manufacturer quoted as needing to make it worthwhile?

Anyway, thanks to all for the replies above. Keep em coming!

 

[sndmn11]

Someone here should just start a scope brand, or talk @Ryan Avery into it.

I think there is enough industry networking in enough people at/on Rokslide that the right entity to manufacturer is one of two degrees away.

I do think there'd be a hard decision to buy if it went over $999. I think it would be in a much better market around $599. I say that knowing how popular Vortex and Leupold are due to being "affordable". If folks really want to change the consumer mindset into demanding reliability, you have to show them that they can afford to pay for it. Otherwise the mindset will continue of "I can't afford a Nightforce, I'm just a hunter, etc."

I think both Tract and Maven COULD do it tomorrow, far more than capable. I think it would be a huge pill to swallow because then they would be insulting their existing products.

I think Bushnell could do it as well, just revive the 3-12 elite tactical.

Nightforce has no need to do anything like that.

I don't think trijicon is capable because there seems to be at least one person there that approves nonsensical product line features (ten mile vs HX) and would likely screw it up.

In the end, it still would be best for someone to start a brand, or add a line of optics to an existing company, like UM, and then get it and market it.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

LOW won't respond to your emails unless you've been in business for 3 years and have enough sales/ employees, so starting a company from scratch is not an option. Tried that this summer.....

 

[wnelson14]

What about GPO, or like a Kowa. One of those other optics companies that doesnt focus on rifle scopes as much.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

to flip your question around - you're about to sink a quarter million dollars or more into an R&D effort and initial production batch. one company in the world has shown the ability to make products that work, every other company has been incapable of doing it.

who's getting your $ ?

 

[TxLite]

What about GPO, or like a Kowa. One of those other optics companies that doesnt focus on rifle scopes as much.

Just asking because I’m curious, do we expect some of these companies to do a complete redesign in order to survive the drop test? It seems much easier to convince a company to just add a reticle to a known good scope?

Not calling out GPO or Kowa, but some of the suggestions so far are for companies that aren’t historically known for being robust and reliable.

 

[prm]

I asked Trijicon for a 3-12x40 (could be 2-10x42 or whatever) mil/mil FFP Credo or Tenmile. Essentially a slightly larger version of the 2-10x36 with a variation of the THLR reticle.

 

[woods89]

I still think Nightforce is the ideal candidate. I think the SHV price point is where it would be at, NXS prices would trim sales a fair bit. They are just on such a different level than almost everyone else durability wise. But will they? Like has been stated, it's not real hopeful. Their product development seems like a pretty closed system.

I love the fact that Trijicon is paying attention. They would definitely be my second choice, and it appears they are probably more open to input than NF.

I'd have a hard time trusting a new scope from a company that doesn't have a track record of durability and QC, without a large sample size of testing.

 

[DangerRanger]

Just asking because I’m curious, do we expect some of these companies to do a complete redesign in order to survive the drop test? It seems much easier to convince a company to just add a reticle to a known good scope?

Not calling out GPO or Kowa, but some of the suggestions so far are for companies that aren’t historically known for being robust and reliable.

I agree.

I think we are looking through rose colored glasses if we think 63 likes is going to convince a company to build a new scope. Honestly, I don’t think they’ll do a reticle for it either, but it’s at least a shot I guess.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

we really just need 1 company that's willing to put their name behind it at LOW, and we can crowdfund the rest of the R&D, prototyping, testing, and first production run using presales through rokslide.

 

[TxLite]

I asked Trijicon for a 3-12x40 (could be 2-10x42 or whatever) mil/mil FFP Credo or Tenmile. Essentially a slightly larger version of the 2-10x36 with a variation of the THLR reticle.

Sent mine as well

 

[TreeDog]

I asked Trijicon for a 3-12x40 (could be 2-10x42 or whatever) mil/mil FFP Credo or Tenmile. Essentially a slightly larger version of the 2-10x36 with a variation of the THLR reticle.

That would be my perfect scope

 

[Brontosaurus]

I'm wondering if we should pick a scope company and basically fill their inbox with requests for this scope. Essentially an email bombing campaign. I know some companies don't want to listen, but 60-100 personal requests would be hard for any marketing team to ignore.

 

[Brontosaurus]

I'm wondering if we should pick a scope company and basically fill their inbox with requests for this scope. Essentially an email bombing campaign. I know some companies don't want to listen, but 60-100 personal requests would be hard for any marketing team to ignore.

Also if we find that the scope company still doesn't want to listen we pick another and try it again

 

[JollyRoger]

I asked Trijicon for a 3-12x40 (could be 2-10x42 or whatever) mil/mil FFP Credo or Tenmile. Essentially a slightly larger version of the 2-10x36 with a variation of the THLR reticle.

Interested to know what they say!

 

[prm]

Interested to know what they say!

Well, it was over a year and a half ago. They did say "thank you". Ha ha. They haven't released any new scopes since then, but I keep checking! Maybe they will release new models this year. I can dream.

 

[DangerRanger]

we really just need 1 company that's willing to put their name behind it at LOW, and we can crowdfund the rest of the R&D, prototyping, testing, and first production run using presales through rokslide.

Dog we can’t even crowdfund enough ammo to do a drop test

 

[ResearchinStuff]

nightforce said to kick rocks when i asked in early 2022.

 

[prm]

You could hand NF the best hunting reticle the world has ever seen and they wouldn't know what to do with it. For a company that can do so many excellent things, it baffles me just how bad they are at hunting reticles.