Which 6mm?

[Shooter264]

N540 likely has something to do with that.

Was 2840 with Varget. N540 shot better for me.

 

[eoperator]

My plan is a 20” dasher. For barrel life and a bullet starting at 2750 hopefully. 103eldx and 80eldvt should do it well.

21" #5 brux origin 6dasher

With varget i am at 2750fps with 103eldx and 3100fps with eldvt.

To the op I put this rifle together with similar thoughts as you but to be honest I always grab the 6cm for hunting. You have a 6arc the ultimate target/close range hunting cartridge, seems a hot rod cartridge would compliment the 6arc nicely for hunting.

 

[khuber84]

In an 18" barrel the 6cm still gets surprisingly good velocity. I just tested 105hyb and 112mb in my 18in yesterday. Was able to get up to 3000fps with both, H4350 w/ 105s and rl26 with 112s. No bolt lift or ejector marks either. Case web diameters on lapua brass tell me its pretty dang warm, as they're only .0006 under chamber diameter. Going to run the 2900 node with 112s as it likely has a lower velocity threshold for expansion and has same wind holds as the 105 at 3k. It's a lot lower pressure as well. I've shot a lot of 6gt, several barrels worth. It does just fine with 24-28" barrels, but an 18" is gonna take a lot of it's steam, beings it holds 8gr less than the creed. The 6cm at pressure from a 26" is 200fps faster than the 6gt w/ H4350 when I compared a few last year. In 18" I think it'll still be 150fps faster just do to the efficiency of the smaller case. 6gt id go no less than 20" as I think you could still run the mid 2800 velocity window without being too close to pressure. I have a 21" gt being cut for my Tikka now.

 

[HingleMcCringleberry]

For those using the 6mm GT, and a tikka, did you get your firing pin bushed and turned down?

Considering going to a GT with hornady making it a distribution wide cartridge.

 

[Lawnboi]

For those using the 6mm GT, and a tikka, did you get your firing pin bushed and turned down?

Considering going to a GT with hornady making it a distribution wide cartridge.

Small rifle primers are a non issue in tikka standard face bolts. I’m barrels into SRP creedmoor brass without issue.

 

[WestMOhunter]

I know the answer to this question is subjective, but to the guys that have shot both 6 CM and the GT a lot: Is recoil management noticeably better with the Gay Tiger? I’m leaning hard towards the GT primarily for this reason. I am not very recoil sensitive having shot a 280AI a lot, and 300 Wby less, but the more I shoot my 6.5 CM (which I love shooting) the more I want less and less recoil. Wondering if the 6CM won’t be enough reduction to meet my expectations, so maybe the GT is the better play? Thanks.

 

[Luked]

I'm thinking 6 Creed for my next one.

 

[turbo406]

I know the answer to this question is subjective, but to the guys that have shot both 6 CM and the GT a lot: Is recoil management noticeably better with the Gay Tiger? I’m leaning hard towards the GT primarily for this reason. I am not very recoil sensitive having shot a 280AI a lot, and 300 Wby less, but the more I shoot my 6.5 CM (which I love shooting) the more I want less and less recoil. Wondering if the 6CM won’t be enough reduction to meet my expectations, so maybe the GT is the better play? Thanks.

I got a 6 creed that's collecting dust because of my arcs, the gt really really has my attention lately as a little more speed and varget to push it. It's amazing the more you shoot an efficient 6mm you really have no desire to change

 

[Lawnboi]

I got a 6 creed that's collecting dust because of my arcs, the gt really really has my attention lately as a little more speed and varget to push it. It's amazing the more you shoot an efficient 6mm you really have no desire to change

The dasher has me considering dumping the 223 and just shooting dasher all the time instead. I think it would be hard to argue a BR or arc for everything inside of 500.

 

[turbo406]

The dasher has me considering dumping the 223 and just shooting dasher all the time instead. I think it would be hard to argue a BR or arc for everything inside of 500

I guess I never even considered the dasher, I love my arcs and will always have a couple but it would be nice to build a custom and it's alot easier to justify the 308 bolt face

 

[WestMOhunter]

I got a 6 creed that's collecting dust because of my arcs, the gt really really has my attention lately as a little more speed and varget to push it. It's amazing the more you shoot an efficient 6mm you really have no desire to change

Good to know. Thank you! And yeah, may sound picky, but a bit more fps and optimized for Varget is exactly why I’m leaning GT. Probably need to go that route.

 

[khuber84]

Good to know. Thank you! And yeah, may sound picky, but a bit more fps and optimized for Varget is exactly why I’m leaning GT. Probably need to go that route.

Dasher is optimized for Varg. The 6gt with anything 108gr or heavier performs much better with H4350 burn rate powders. 8 gt barrels and counting, tried every 6mm bullet from 105-115gr.

 

[Lawnboi]

Some guys are running dasher successfully with h4350. Making it more appealing than a straight BR, or BRA to me.

Goood options to have.

I have never had a gun that shot as well and as easy as alpha dasher chamber/brass/sac alpha dasher die.

I’m giving it a good go on a hunting gun, should have the barrel spun on and shooting by may.


6 creed is on the edge of barrel life being worth it/ pickiness to me.

The difference between a 6 creed and a dasher recoil wise is notable.

 

[KyleR1985]

I will +1 for the dasher.

I ended up in it because I love a Howa mini, and I know a guy with a dasher reamer.

If either of those weren’t true I’d probably go GT before getting my hands on the mini dasher.


16” factory barrel, bedded action in stockys stock, Swfa 3x9. I’m probably on the left of bell curves in terms of shooting ability on this forum - and the gun shot .68 moa 5 shot group 2713fps avg with virgin seconds brass/seconds 108’s/32gr Varget mag length OAL (2.315” - arbitrary choice to fit in mag not designed for the dasher). Shots 30-35 or so down the tube.

The dasher cartridge is a joke. I think even I can be a shooter with it. One of the best hunting decisions I’ve made to build this gun. Now I just need to find places to rifle hunt. 90% of my kills are with a bow…

 

[TripleOption]

Dashers are fantastic if you reload. I'vs shot out a handful of GT barrels before switching to dasher, and the dasher seems to be lest finicky and better groups / SDs than a GT. But if you don't reload then GT is a much better choice. But if you've got a really short barrel and aren't competing with it, only hunting, then 6 creed is probably better.

 

[WestMOhunter]

I don’t have any experience with Dasher or GT, but I’m a little curious about the reports that Dashers can have feeding issues. That’s a no-go for me if true, even if it’s as simple as less reliable than GT.

 

[TripleOption]

I don’t have any experience with Dasher or GT, but I’m a little curious about the reports that Dashers can have feeding issues. That’s a no-go for me if true, even if it’s as simple as less reliable than GT.

There's some truth to dashers not feeding reliably out of AICS mags (cartridge is too short).

However, there are mag kits to add a block to an AICS to fix that issue. Or you can buy MDT dasher mags (that's what I did) and never have a feeding problem.

 

[KyleR1985]

I don’t have any experience with Dasher or GT, but I’m a little curious about the reports that Dashers can have feeding issues. That’s a no-go for me if true, even if it’s as simple as less reliable than GT.

I will say this about Dasher:

Take what you read about the cartridge with a grain of salt. Most of the information comes from prior to there being factory brass, and dies.

And ALL of the information comes from bench rest crowd. Not a lot of hunters.

And the Internet filters for bad news.




When I controlled for all of that, I got a tiny gun shooting tiny groups with fast heavyish for caliber bullets.

 

[khuber84]

6gt and 6 dasher, you're stuck wirh dbm aics or aw style mags, all 10-12rd capacity. There are zero 5 Rd mags. A creedmoor hawkins hunter mag with the arc/grendel kit installed is a possibility with 6 dasher.

I've heard of some guys running magpul aics pmags successful with the gt, and those could work for 5rds. Neither of these cases will feed bdl style off the feed lips of an action, and wyatts center feed box is designed to run short mags.

6X47 6XC or 6CM, will feed in damn near everything.

 

[pathnz]

The Magpul AICS .308 mags work wonderfully with 6GT for me.