What products do you wish companies made for hunting?

Dehydrated small batch bourbon so all I have to do is add water. Tired of carrying all that weight. Maybe a good dehydrated IPA for breakfast too.
Have you tried Pats backcountry beers IPA? They sell these small packets of ~40% ABV that you mix with water and carbonate using their special bottle. It takes a little practice getting the carbonation just right, but still taste quite good when in the mountains.
 
There is several guys who are making Bobcat cages for trappers. Just need to get on trapping sites and find the ads and knowledge. Heck we made a hundred of them cages one summer. They are just hard to ship and costly.
 
this year I was wondering why a brand like Exo doesnt make a bino harness already attached to the backpack. Just make it one system instead of doubling up and having backpack straps sit on top of the bino harness straps.
I agree with this. I ended up buying AGC’s small camel back style pack that requires you to use the bino harness to secure it. It’s not the system to go on overnight hunts with but I like that it doesn’t require multiple layers of straps cross-crossing my body. I wish that EXO made a bino harness attachment to do something g similar.
 
I also would like to see a trekking pole with a bolt in attachment to mount my binos. I don’t always want to take a tripod for glassing but need more stability than hand holding.
 
I also would like to see a trekking pole with a bolt in attachment to mount my binos. I don’t always want to take a tripod for glassing but need more stability than hand holding.

Have you seen the sparrow adapter? It is made to work with trekking pole pointed end and this works very well. See my recent posts at the end of the thread demonstrating this.

 
this year I was wondering why a brand like Exo doesnt make a bino harness already attached to the backpack. Just make it one system instead of doubling up and having backpack straps sit on top of the bino harness straps.
Marsupial has a kit to attach their bino packs to backpacks. In theory I loved it, but when using found it annoying.
 
Boots actually designed for western hunting, it would still need to be a few different models to cover everything. Right now we’re adapting mountaineering and backpacking boots for hunting and manufactures are making incremental changes for us but I don’t know of anyone designing a boot from the ground up for western hunting

What are the demands of western hunting that make it unique from backpacking and mountaineering when it comes to footwear?

What qualities would make an exclusive, dedicated “hunting” boot?

We’re pretty much the only outdoor user group that still uses heavy duty boots.
 
What are the demands of western hunting that make it unique from backpacking and mountaineering when it comes to footwear?

What qualities would make an exclusive, dedicated “hunting” boot?

We’re pretty much the only outdoor user group that still uses heavy duty boots.
Backpackers, foresters and woodland firefighters still use heavy duty boots.

Obiously it depends on the individual groups.
 
What are the demands of western hunting that make it unique from backpacking and mountaineering when it comes to footwear?

What qualities would make an exclusive, dedicated “hunting” boot?

We’re pretty much the only outdoor user group that still uses heavy duty boots.
Without getting too down in the weeds. Mapped rugged protection that would allow for more flexibility because you can use softer material in between the rugged sections. Good deep lugs without the climbing section and little ridges on those lugs. A rubber compound that balances cold sloppy conditions with reasonable durability. More utilization of injection molding but with more flexibility than what we’re used to. Real anatomical shaped lasts, WIDE WITHS!!!!!!!!!!!! More options bigger than a size 11. Everything exists just not widely available in one package, we’re compromising too much.
 
Without getting too down in the weeds. Mapped rugged protection that would allow for more flexibility because you can use softer material in between the rugged sections. Good deep lugs without the climbing section and little ridges on those lugs. A rubber compound that balances cold sloppy conditions with reasonable durability. More utilization of injection molding but with more flexibility than what we’re used to. Real anatomical shaped lasts, WIDE WITHS!!!!!!!!!!!! More options bigger than a size 11. Everything exists just not widely available in one package, we’re compromising too much.

As a user group, Do hunters have wider than average feet?


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Backpackers, foresters and woodland firefighters still use heavy duty boots.

Obiously it depends on the individual groups.

Backpackers have almost all gone to wearing shoes. It’s a rare exception to see a backpacker in boots these days.

Wildland Firefighters do for sure as they are required to, but that’s an occupational requirement.
 
Backpackers have almost all gone to wearing shoes. It’s a rare exception to see a backpacker in boots these days.

Wildland Firefighters do for sure as they are required to, but that’s an occupational requirement.

As a big guy. 6'7" 265 lbs.
most of all toeboxes are too small in "normal" width shoes.
if a 13 or 14 option even exists in those shoes.
 
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As a big guy. 6'7" 265 lbs.
most of all toeboxes are too small in "normal" width shoes.

I have no doubt that a guy of your stature has trouble fitting most any mass produced apparel on your body. Given your height, You also represent less than 2% of the population. If you consider that the average American male is 5’10 with a size 10.5 shoe, you’re definitely an outlier relying on the specialty size category when it comes to certain types of gear.
 
Boots actually designed for western hunting, it would still need to be a few different models to cover everything. Right now we’re adapting mountaineering and backpacking boots for hunting and manufactures are making incremental changes for us but I don’t know of anyone designing a boot from the ground up for western hunting

What makes a boot hunting specific? There are a huge variety of shapes/sizes/styles/height/sole stiffness/material etc.. Do they need to be camo?


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I have no doubt that a guy of your stature has trouble fitting most any mass produced apparel on your body. Given your height, You also represent less than 2% of the population. If you consider that the average American male is 5’10 with a size 10.5 shoe, you’re definitely an outlier relying on the specialty size category when it comes to certain types of gear.

I know I'm the anomaly.

However I think more the point is bigger or smaller than normal isnt bigger all around or smaller all around in footware its usually shorter or longer.
Same with shirts. Drives me crazy when a XL and 3XL have the same torso length. I need the torso length not the girth.
 
Without getting too down in the weeds. Mapped rugged protection that would allow for more flexibility because you can use softer material in between the rugged sections. Good deep lugs without the climbing section and little ridges on those lugs. A rubber compound that balances cold sloppy conditions with reasonable durability. More utilization of injection molding but with more flexibility than what we’re used to. Real anatomical shaped lasts, WIDE WITHS!!!!!!!!!!!! More options bigger than a size 11. Everything exists just not widely available in one package, we’re compromising too much.

And LIGHT. Every pound of boot weight equates to the energy expenditure of 7 pounds of weight on a backpack. I love my Kenetreks for wet, deep snow and mud, but I went over to Salomon Quest 4s for everything else. I've experiemented, and the difference at the end of the hunt is massive. I almost feel twice as tired after a hunt for chukar or other upland birds wearing the Kenetreks as I do over the Salomons.
 
As a big guy. 6'7" 265 lbs.
most of all toeboxes are too small in "normal" width shoes.
if a 13 or 14 option even exists in those shoes.

You might take a look at White's Boots - they have a pretty large selection of "lasts" they build boots around, including ones with large toe-boxes. Not cheap, but in the long run it's been my experience with things like this that you actually end up spending less in the end, in not having to replace the gear as often. Especially cheaper quality that doesn't fit right. White's are about as long-lasting as it gets. Them, and Nick's.
 
Without getting too down in the weeds. Mapped rugged protection that would allow for more flexibility because you can use softer material in between the rugged sections. Good deep lugs without the climbing section and little ridges on those lugs. A rubber compound that balances cold sloppy conditions with reasonable durability. More utilization of injection molding but with more flexibility than what we’re used to. Real anatomical shaped lasts, WIDE WITHS!!!!!!!!!!!! More options bigger than a size 11. Everything exists just not widely available in one package, we’re compromising too much.

I'm just not buying into this. There is a huge variety of boots available on the market and many of these bootmakers have been in business for generations.

In terms of "hunting specific", there's just nothing that hunters need that's not available on the market.
The only difference between a backpacker and a hunter is that hunters spend more time off trail and tend to carry heavier loads. Wildlands firefighters also carry very heavy loads and spend time off trail. Off trail is addressed with a full rand which a host of companies offer. There are at least 2 brands that come to mind, Schnees and Crispi, that primarily cater to hunters above other user groups and market their boots as "hunting boots"
When you get into goat and sheep hunting, you may need a mountaineering style boot. Other than that, its all fit and preference.

-Removing the climbing section from the lugs? Have you lost your damn mind? Are you not in fact spending most of your time climbing when Western hunting? This rather undoes your criticism out of the gate. No one on this forum, not one single member is going to levy a complaint about the fact that their lug design features climbing traction under the toes.

-Rubber compounds? I'd say every reputable brand on the market has at least one line of boot that does just that. If you start blending compounds too much, you'll get uneven wear. I can't say I've ever fielded a complaint about any of the compounds on any of the reputable boots I've owned and I live in the Western mountains and use boots, including boots with winter compounds on them, year around.

-More flexibility than what we are used to? That's a personal preference. I personally prefer softer flexing boots, but also own some stiffer boots for burlier situations.
-More options bigger than size 11? Seriously? What brand stops making boots at size 12? I'm a size 13 and have never had an issue finding a design for a boot in my size. I'd say limitations start after size 13, but, like the big fella above, you are getting into the sub 2% of the population when you get into size 14 and bigger.

There's no such thing as putting out the perfect boot for everyone. Feet vary in shape too much and preferences are wildly all over the map. What is the perfect boot for me may be terrible for you. You're presenting this as if we are missing some singular solution. The solution is to offer a wide variety of designs, fit, flex and features and let people find what works best for them and their particular needs. There will always be statistical outliers -people with very problematically shaped feet and with a size 21. While expensive and unfortunate, statistical outliers will often have to resort to custom boots as you just can't reasonably mass produce something that fits them.
 
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