What does it take to kill a grizzly?

[gbflyer]

This is how it goes. Queue the big talk:

Juneau hunters recount brown bear attack on Admiralty Island that left one battered, but alive

Even though everyone walked away from the encounter with a brown bear sow, it left the seasoned hunters rattled.

www.ktoo.org

 

[grappling_hook]

Why match bullets? See we already have a issue! Do i need match bullets in my 375?

Modern match bullets (73gr ELDMs or 77gr TMKs) are why I now carry an AR15 in brown bear country while hunting. Instead of the .338 or 12-gauge I carried for defense in brown bear rivers in the 90s while working for Fish and Game.

 

[Dobermann]

I'm wondering if this is really someone else who used to be on this forum. A couple of folks come to mind. Or maybe the latest version of a bot.

Bah ... I go away away for a month and this thread happens. Could only stomach a few pages in the middle until I realized I actually have a life to live ...

But I'm dying to know: did anyone ever find out if MtnW is indeed a banned user reincarnated ... or, at the very least, if MtnW and TaperPin are related?

Right, carry on ...

 

[AkRyan]

Have you ever parachuted from a plane and had a parachute fail to open? If not- (because it hasn’t happened to you) does that mean that parachutes don’t fail to open?


“It hasn’t happened to me” is not a logical position in an argument.

This entire post is based off people's experiences. Are we trying to say a .223 is just simply better than every other cartridge? Can put any rifle in anyone's hands and know that it will be perfectly lethal on there first shot??
What is required to kill a grizzly bear is a major disruption to the central nervous system, extreme blood loss, or loss of brain function.
If your confident in going into the woods solo with a .223 to hunt grizzly bears than you should!
Give me a .223 and I will kill bears but you can't say that for everyone., and we absolutely cannot ignore the fact that ultra heavy bullets from larg magnums are better suited for bears...I want to bring up Africa but I know 90% of you will just bring up the jack O'Connor story. YOU ARENT JACK O'CONNOR

 

[Formidilosus]

This entire post is based off people's experiences. Are we trying to say a .223 is just simply better than every other cartridge?

Has anyone said that? Can you quote it if so.

There is no cartridge that is “better” than every other cartridge.

Can put any rifle in anyone's hands and know that it will be perfectly lethal on there first shot??

No. What is your point here?

What is required to kill a grizzly bear is a major disruption to the central nervous system, extreme blood loss, or loss of brain function.

Yes. So where does a 223 with good bullets lack in that- please be specific, as you just know from experience with 223’s and the bullets discussed to believe what you do.

If your confident in going into the woods solo with a .223 to hunt grizzly bears than you should!
Give me a .223 and I will kill bears but you can't say that for everyone.,

That doesn’t change regardless of cartridge.

and we absolutely cannot ignore the fact that ultra heavy bullets from larg magnums are better suited for bears...

That is not factually true, that is your “belief” and “feeling”.

I want to bring up Africa but I know 90% of you will just bring up the jack O'Connor story. YOU ARENT JACK O'CONNOR

What?

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

This entire post is based off people's experiences. Are we trying to say a .223 is just simply better than every other cartridge? Can put any rifle in anyone's hands and know that it will be perfectly lethal on there first shot??
What is required to kill a grizzly bear is a major disruption to the central nervous system, extreme blood loss, or loss of brain function.
If your confident in going into the woods solo with a .223 to hunt grizzly bears than you should!
Give me a .223 and I will kill bears but you can't say that for everyone., and we absolutely cannot ignore the fact that ultra heavy bullets from larg magnums are better suited for bears...I want to bring up Africa but I know 90% of you will just bring up the jack O'Connor story. YOU ARENT JACK O'CONNOR

The animals in Africa aren’t the armor plated mythical creatures that everyone would have you believing. They die the same as every other animal when hit properly with a well constructed bullet at a high enough velocity.

If you think there is more “margin for error” with a slightly larger diameter bullet you are in for a rude awakening.