What does it take to kill a grizzly?

[yeti12]

Once again, animals that have been easily killed with sharp sticks also somehow require the largest caliber guns around to kill.

 

[walk2112]

While the true practicing indigenous people are not against killing bears they have a special ritual when they do kill one. They will not kill a fish eating bear but instead a fall berry fed bear….

Could be two separate thoughts smashed together here that I’m misinterpreting what you mean, but I’m 99.9% sure the reason they don’t kill a fish eating bear, but will kill a fall berry fed bear, is not a spiritual one.
(One tastes like shit, the other is pretty tasty)

Either way, devils aadvocate here, Alaska bears must be weaker than guided Yukon bears. Many big bears get taken each year by 223, 243, 22-250 or similar all over rural Alaska.

 

[MtnW]

ELPOLLO,
I still believe if you are a biologist you are not a big game biologist but a avian biologist.BIG difference.
No one in their right mind needs to be a trained, book smart ballistics expert to know the .308/7MM/300/375 Mag’s killing ability compared to a .223. I can not believe you can not understand that many of the families in ,WY,MT,ID that I mentioned that have/had big game biologists, game managers,wardens in their families, that these families had four or six family members. They all hunted their entire lives,part of the culture in being raised in these states. Many of these families were involved in hunting and killing 400-500 big game animals in their life times, plus hunting with friends The family members who are/were wardens, biologists, game managers acquired tremendous amounts of real in the field ,real world ballistics experience, not through as you want to point out our classroom “COURSE WORK”. These wardens, etc. who you and formidilosus , dismiss and minimize their experience levels and state they have no ballistics experience or knowledge is just false. They know more than you course work boys in regards to killing big game animals ever will. Same for many of the master guides we have had the pleasure to hunt with. These guides, outfitters owners , wardens, biologists, game managers, have not only hunted and killed grizzlies on their own hunts, numerous numbers of kills with their clients, but also a large number of nuisance grizzlies around their hunting camps,lodges,homes, state game units, ranches and livestock. To call thIs group of professionals, inexperienced is simply another incorrect fallacy.Your calling these groups of outdoor professionals inexperienced is just ignorant.I am not the one who is working for a hUnting forum giving out advice to new hunters about using a .223 to hunt grizzly/brown bears. I am just a hunting forum member with some grizzly killing/hunting experiences calling out your B.S.. It doesn’t matter if I have killed 3 grizzly bears or 30. It’s not really any of your personal business on how many kills I personally have made or how many moose , elk, or Mtn sheep I have killed. It’s other hunters with similar experience levels along with the many hunters/outdoor professionals on here and other hunting forums that are saying shooting grizzly/brown bears with a .223 is just flat out unethical, unsafe/dangerous, and unsportsmanlike .

 

[gbflyer]

Well that certainly took the predictable turn.

 

[NateTP38]

What is your experience level to be such a expert? How many grizzly, brown bears , mountain sheep, moose, elk , caribou, Cape buffalo, leopards have you killed, hunting on your own or with a guide?

I don’t give advice on topics I have no experience on, and I am annoyed by others who attempt to.

It doesn’t matter if I have killed 3 grizzly bears or 30. It’s not really any of your personal business on how many kills I personally have made or how many moose , elk, or Mtn sheep I have killed.

.223 derangement syndrome is real.