What are your thoughts on the Kung Flu?

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Dos Perros said:
I’d personally appreciate if you kept it open, and us chuckleheads reeled it in. This is probably my most trusted consolidated source of real national info. I get local stuff fine but it’s not like CNN or anything else is really useful.
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I agree and would love to see it reeled in so it can stay open.


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Rant warning! Seems to me that one of the top priorities of the CDC would be to have a national stockpile of masks, gloves, faceshields, etc. Millions of them, more than we would ever need. In some storage facilities spread throughout the country. You know, in case some pandemic or something came along. Not having them would kind of be like a fire department not having some extra fire hose laying around the station.
Our nurses and Dr's, first responders, etc shouldn't have to be rationing them or worse, going without. Total incompetence IMHO. Rant over. And no, I'm not a health care professional, but I am a volunteer fireman:-))
 
I agree with the premise of your point Elk. The group that is tasked with health care should keep adequate supplies. Just roll along in the good times then mad scramble and bemoan inadequate preparation when most needed. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

I will say that it would be a bit of a logistical nightmare trying to keep track of. Pretty much every thing they use, PPE wise, will have an expiration date on it. Would need a small army to keep track of it and rotate stock out.

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I’m not sure what to make of it all. My company has a very large plant in eastern China and they are reporting things are pretty much back to normal.

My neighbors are from Italy with family in northern Italy. When I asked them about how northern Italy really was they said it is every bit as bad as the news is saying.

Let’s please keep it civil so this thread can continue. I’ve learned a lot from posts here.


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Another interesting thing in all this is Germany. No one seems to be talking much about them. Huge number of cases, over 20,000 and only 83 deaths.

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It appears that heavy smokers over 40 (especially over 60) and some of the younger generation that vape (not sure mild or heavy) are the biggest percentages that are having the worst problems with covid19, I’m sure the elderly 65 and over that’s been smoking since they were kids are getting leveled from it.

Just think about how many 65 and older in this country that smoke with heart disease and COPD this could wipe out........(prolly clear out a quarter to a third of Kentucky’s population) then add the cancer patients who’s immune systems are compromised from treatments not to mention all the other folks that are fighting diabetes and other issues, I don’t have a clue what the numbers could be but out of 330,000,000 people in the US would most of you think those I just described would take up a quarter to a third of the population??

If so we’re talking potential of killing close to a million people fairly quick if we didn’t take the actions we are taking, this is hypothetical but with Italy’s issues as a model and our shortage of health care battle gear and ventilators I think the potential is there, let’s hope not......and I seriously doubt we ever get close to those numbers but I think we are trying to fight harder for the people I just described and all healthy people over 75.
 
jmez said:
Another interesting thing in all this is Germany. No one seems to be talking much about them. Huge number of cases, over 20,000 and only 83 deaths.

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Is that from a reputable source? That's impressive. But the fact that the media aren't talking about that is just one more piece of evidence that they DO NOT want Americans to have any hope. They want to portray the flu as deadly and unstoppable as possible to push their agenda (getting Trump out of office).

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Please just stop the partisan hyperbole......


If you want to see Germany's number go to the john Hopkins sight and take a look at them. They are there for the viewing its not a secret..

Furthermore Germany has by most matrixs the one of the best health care Infrastructures per capita in the world.
 
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MattB said:
To be more direct, VERY few folks who frequent this sight could have gotten into Baylor Med school had they tried and it is silly to make jokes to suggest otherwise.
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That's the point. Without knowing for sure......it's all speculation.....so no real meaningful numbers. I'm more optimistic......there could be several guys on here that could have gotten into medical school.......if that's what they wanted to do. No need for jokes to suggest otherwise.
 
Sounds like NYC is about out of beds, looking to put up tent city in the convention center. They have 50,000 beds, trying to boost to 75,000.
 
Website called worldometers. Tracks the cases. Interesting site with a lot of good info. Numbers seem reputable. It matches what the CDC is putting out.

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mcseal2 said:
I'm just going to hole up with the family on the ranch and calve our cows. I can't control much past what happens on our ranch so I'm going to concentrate on what I can control. I will stay informed as I can of what's going on and try to make decisions based on that as this progresses. I will also pray for the country, that I can do. I had to go to the closest farm and ranch store yesterday to get some things for Dad. He needed them to keep our feed wagon running if this thing stretches out, and there are not yet any reported cases in the county I had to go to. He is 65 and higher risk than me, so I went. My brief time in town I saw enough crazy that I don't care to go back for a while unless it's absolutely necessary.
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Same here - where do you Ranch? Calving here too.
 
If vaping and smoking are factors in how severe an infected person‘s symptoms are, I wonder what affect weed has. If it’s an issue at all, I’ll be interested to see what happens in states like Colorado.
 
Trial153 said:
Please just stop the partisan hyperbole......


If you want to see Germany's number go to the john Hopkins sight and take a look at them. They are there for the viewing its not a secret..

Furthermore Germany has by most matrixs the one of the best health care Infrastructures per capita in the world.
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The Johns Hopkins site shows 0 recoveries between WA, CA, and NY. That just can’t be right.
 
jmez said:
Everyone's death rate is significantly lower than Italy's. You don't use an obvious outlier to make your predictions.

Washington and New Yorks health systems are overloaded. They aren't near where Italy is.

None of the death rates and % are anywhere near accurate. They are grossly inflated based on the way testing is being done.

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Italy is all we hear though... people do compare the outlier...… that is why I still have an attitude of this being over hyped... I do know it's serious, but we aren't Italy.... last report I saw from Italy was the average age of death from covid-19 was 79.5 yrs old.... another detail left out.

people seem to love the drama of doom and gloom, like that's finally something stimulating in their lives, even though it's bad.... this muddies the waters for info we get, and you see it in every outlet that's talking about it.

this is bad, it does suck, I do think a lockdown isn't unreasonable, people will die, but America is awesome, and we'll come out better than the doom and gloomers are saying. I think this will be looked back on as a big pita in a few months, nothing more (as a whole, not talking about the families effected by the disease)

USA is what it is for a reason, we always come out on top, we'll do it again here. lots of hindsight quarterback country leading talk here, i'm not a huge Trump fan, I think he's a little bit of a knuckle head, but he has been really good at getting stuff done..... he isn't a BS'er, he gets stuff done that he says he will.

I don't mind him as our leader through this, could be a hell of a lot worse.... like Hillary making decisions on ANYTHING that regards us.

why is everyone so hell bent on comparing everything to Italy? the worst scenario by far.... without all of the contributing factors?
 
I can see where President is tired of being attacked by the press about everything. Press seems to be continuing their neverending assault to undermine everything.

I trust the press 0. Most of the bad info has been provided by them. I think the press wanted to know why Prez was optimistic (as opposed to telling everyone they are gonna die). In a time like this, when the press is passing doom & gloom, someone has to sell optimism. Might as well be him cause press sure isn't.

I also wouldn't want to be in Prez's shoes in a time such as this.

If all you can do is b&m, you show your true intent. Boohoo for the press.
 
Dos Perros said:
The Johns Hopkins site shows 0 recoveries between WA, CA, and NY. That just can’t be right.
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Most likely its correct. WorldOmeter is pretty much the same. In order to get added to the talley there needs to be a traceable citation. I am not sure what numeric we have assigned in the US for a case to be resolved, for example 30 days. Quite frankly we arent that far in yet for the vast majority of US cases for resolutions.
Not to be alarmist, however there has been many documented cases showing that this isnt always linear in progression.
 
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