What are your thoughts on the Kung Flu?

[ODB]

It is bizarre how unprepared the USA is. Not nearly enough tests, no real plan. We used to stand up and set the standard. Times have changed.

We were indeed late, especially with the reagent mishap, but I keep in a mind a few things:

if deaths numbers start rising, it cannot be hidden by any state media;
All 50 states are now testing for it;
Total tested people are about 10,000, NOT the 479 that keeps being thrown around;
Since tests are local (at the states) the CDC-tested number will stay where it is;
Not reporting deaths accuracy INCLUDING pre-conditions (age, known health issues) is a form of misinformation;
People have and will change their habits which will have a net positive result for us;
Cool heads prevail.

 

[rodney482]

This Virus could not have come at a better time for communists......including those in our own govt.

 

[SoDaky]

Unprepared?Reliance on China?
Of course,just one of the benefits of 'one worlding'.

 

[ODB]

Unprepared?Reliance on China?
Of course,just one of the benefits of 'one worlding'.

I agree. i imagine there are a whole lot of companies looking for a More diverse/robust supply chain. What a great time to incentivize manufacturers to stay here, no?

 

[brsnow]

I agree. i imagine there are a whole lot of companies looking for a More diverse/robust supply chain. What a great time to incentivize manufacturers to stay here, no?

with the opioid issues is there really a viable workforce? I believe India may benefit greatly.

 

[ODB]

with the opioid issues is there really a viable workforce? I believe India may benefit greatly.

india already is. And yes, we have a viable workforce.

Having dealt with Indian suppliers, well, let’s just say they aren’t free from their own issues.

 

[FredBear86]

I agree. i imagine there are a whole lot of companies looking for a More diverse/robust supply chain. What a great time to incentivize manufacturers to stay here, no?

I think this is a very good point and bargaining tool. What better way to prepare ourselves, which some believe we aren't, than for businesses to diversify their manufacturing. It will be interesting with the stock market hit that has taking place, and also the question mark on whether China manufacturing gets ramped back up in time before inventories are depleted, as too what is the longer cheaper option. No doubt that other countries can manufacture cheaper than us but if something like this hits more often it may end up being cheaper in the long run to do some here. Just a thought. Its no secret that most of the places our manufacturing take place, the potential for what has happened is greater than something of the like originating here in the homeland. I don't like the dependency on some of the countries we rely on.

 

[skywalkr]

It is bizarre how unprepared the USA is. Not nearly enough tests, no real plan. We used to stand up and set the standard. Times have changed.

If there’s a bright side to all this it’s we get to see what a bad pandemic could look like and realize we actually need to have a plan in place. Hopefully there will be many lessons learned from this with few deaths.

 

[Shrek]

I can tell you that the first week back to work in China was slow. This week is the first ships here in Jacksonville Florida. At the port I go in and out of there are only three ships. That’s not too surprising but there’s only 1400 moves combined. That’s a third of normal for the ships. Port of Savannah Georgia is closing on Saturdays and expects there to be a 30-40 percent drop in freight.

 

[Shrek]

Having dealt with Indian suppliers, well, let’s just say they aren’t free from their own issues.

My son does programming for a bank. He tells me it would be better if they never let any Indians touch a computer. Everything has to be rewritten he gets from them. It’s not in his work schedule because the programs are supposed to be ready for work. Real Pita.

 

[justin davis]

Man if you read this thread you would think the world is ending forsure. I’m still confused. I don’t think this corona virus is that bad??

we are being encouraged at work to if we encounter anyone who might have it to have them stay home and rest as opposed to go to hospital.

Unless the cdc is down playing it? I have felt like the media is over hyping it like they do with everything.

 

[Apollo117]

My son does programming for a bank. He tells me it would be better if they never let any Indians touch a computer. Everything has to be rewritten he gets from them. It’s not in his work schedule because the programs are supposed to be ready for work. Real Pita.

Off topic, but your son is correct. I don't think I've ever seen code written by an Indian that had correct syntax and formatting. The code usually "works", but it's almost always unreadable.

This is generally because a lot of Indian programmers are self taught and they haven't been exposed to or just disregard coding standards.

 

[ewade07]

Man if you read this thread you would think the world is ending forsure. I’m still confused. I don’t think this corona virus is that bad??

we are being encouraged at work to if we encounter anyone who might have it to have them stay home and rest as opposed to go to hospital.

Unless the cdc is down playing it? I have felt like the media is over hyping it like they do with everything.

The news runs off of what grabs attention. Personally I am not worried about the disease, I am far more worried about the irrational fear mongers. Look at the numbers of this thing. Half of the deaths in the US came from ONE retirement community in Washington. How many otherwise healthy adults have died? Something like 90% of cases are mild and don't even require any medical help. People are just delusional. I received an email at work stating that if you even have a sniffle you should go home. Sure, I will go home, if you don't subtract the time i miss form work from my allotted sick leave time. So pony up or I am staying at work. I can't afford to burn that sick time with all the hunting i have planned this fall!!!!

 

[Poser]

Off topic, but your son is correct. I don't think I've ever seen code written by an Indian that had correct syntax and formatting. The code usually "works", but it's almost always unreadable.

This is generally because a lot of Indian programmers are self taught and they haven't been exposed to or just disregard coding standards.

My company used to use Indian web developers. It sucked. They would only do exactly what you told them to do, no more, no less. No empirical interpretation, no suggestions that the instructions may cause problems. You literally had to write a novel on how to lay out a web page. We have since brought development back to the US and it’s great: “here are some images and text as well as some websites the client likes. Make it look good and we’ll let you know if there are any edits”

 

[lyingflatlander]

I agree with skywalkr, this is a great trial run for a deadlier pandemic. The classic human response is “let’s panic!”, which will be followed up in 3 weeks with, “screw it, we’re all going to get it anyway”. I’m not an expert but influenza A & B are far more deadly. As a healthcare provider I’m probably going to be exposed to and be infected by coronavirus. As a spouse and a father I will give it to my family. We’re all healthy and ultimately we’ll be fine. It’s the old and the sick who are at the greatest risk, but more at risk for seccumbing from influenza A & B.

 

[granite7]

My company used to use Indian web developers. It sucked. They would only do exactly what you told them to do, no more, no less. No empirical interpretation, no suggestions that the instructions may cause problems. You literally had to write a novel on how to lay out a web page. We have since brought development back to the US and it’s great: “here are some images and text as well as some websites the client likes. Make it look good and we’ll let you know if there are any edits”

As a manager of a global team, this is my exact experience. I miss the value proposition from American employees who take the initiative to build something that works. I have experience in Eastern Europe, China, and India. In my experience, India is lip service to talk up what they’ll do, but quality and ownership is lacking. In Eastern Europe, employees will do any task that you can clearly define, but lack the initiative to tackle problems that they have to figure out. Some of them won’t even prioritize and balance their own task list. China is getting too expensive for what they offer in labor.


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[ODB]

My company used to use Indian web developers. It sucked. They would only do exactly what you told them to do, no more, no less. No empirical interpretation, no suggestions that the instructions may cause problems. You literally had to write a novel on how to lay out a web page. We have since brought development back to the US and it’s great: “here are some images and text as well as some websites the client likes. Make it look good and we’ll let you know if there are any edits”

Very interesting comment. Am experiencing this EXACT thing with a project. I have to A,B,C, exactly what to do, and when it’s done I’m asked to make sure it’s right.

 

[justin davis]

Maybe this over reaction is an effort to hurt republicans and try to not get trump re elected?
They are canceling big events and all sort of things because of a virus that got a few people sick??

 

[Elk97]

Ughhhhh, she is far from an expert. That is a horrible source.

Not saying she is wrong, just that she is waaay out of her lane.

She never claimed to be an expert, just a PHD in Biology, she explains that she is not an Epidemiologist. But you don't need a PHD to do the simple math that she explains: the number of cases is doubling every 6 days (US), so if nothing changes anyone can get their calculator out and come up with the same conclusion she did. So far she's right on, the total number of cases was up app. 50% over the weekend in the US. ( https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html ) Obviously something could change (large quarantined areas, etc) and hopefully it will (for the better). Maybe you could elaborate why it's such a horrible source when the math is easy to check and her predictions proving correct since she posted it (and that's all she is doing, connecting the dots for those that haven't done the math themselves). Doesn't take an expert, any 8 year old with a calculator can do it. Facts are facts, whether you like them or not.

 

[Poser]