What are your thoughts on the Kung Flu?

[JustJustin]

They didnt mention it the same way the right leaning news omited the abstance programs, exemption/waivers to limits on executives compensation packages with public funding, a six month non no public disclosure order for companies receiving bail outs. Shorter term for unemployment insurance, week limits on stock buy backs ect ect ...thats off the top of my head.

In nut shell, neither side fairly and accurately represents the other side because BOTH sides are partisan hacks with their own adgends and beholden to their own goups of corporate lobbyist.


Just because they act like hacks doesnt mean we need to fall in line and do the same thing.

I'm not saying none of the stuff you mentioned isn't fine and good, but its plain down close to treason to try to waste time trying to add Green Deal stuff into a bill that needs to be passed yesterday to save the economy and life! While at the same time these Dypocrites are blasting Trump for not acting faster.

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[Trial153]

I'm not saying none of the stuff you mentioned isn't fine and good, but its plain down close to treason to try to waste time trying to add Green Deal stuff into a bill that needs to be passed yesterday to save the economy and life! While at the same time these Dypocrites are blasting Trump for not acting faster.

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You do realize that almost all of the corporate language I mentioned are items that Trump pushed for but the Republicans objected too?


This Bill like every other bill that gets passed has pork for both sides. Looking at one plate full and ignoring the other is doing nothing but playing into the narrative that this two party establishment wants.
If we cant be honest with oursleves how can be expect it from our representatives

 

[HuntHarder]

Trial has drank the blue Koolaid too much

 

[Trial153]

Trial has drank the blue Koolaid too much

I dont drink either color koolaid because they both suck.


If you can honesty look at both these parties over the last 40 years and say either of them have governed well then your delusional.

 

[aggieland]

Scariest thing in that bill was to convert american money to a fully digital market. Not going down the rabbit hole but it's the perfect lead into The Mark of The Beast. https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3102212/1#discussion

 

[HuntHarder]

I dont drink either color koolaid because they both suck.


If you can honesty look at both these parties over the last 40 years and say neither of them have governed well then your delusional.

Agree, but you lean so far left in every post on this topic it's not funny. Most of the crazy republican ideas on the COVID-19 bill atleast have something to do with the crisis. Pelosi's shit is clearly partisan and has absolutely nothing to do with the pandemic...

 

[Trial153]

Agree, but you lean so far left in every post on this topic it's not funny. Most of the crazy republican ideas on the COVID-19 bill atleast have something to do with the crisis. Pelosi's shit is clearly partisan and has absolutely nothing to do with the pandemic...

If its leaning left to not see a regurgitation of the puke sandwich that the american people were served in in the 2008 stimulus package then I can give two shits about abstance programs and jet fuel emissions.

The media with both parties are keeping you occupied with inconsequential rhetoric while they pull the truck up to the back door help each other rob the American people blind.

 

[WV Mountaineer]

I hope this guy is not right. If he is, he’s going to go down as an American hero. He’s doing such a good job of pleading his point, that he may back Trump into a corner and force him to give up the federal reserve of ventilators, which could mean the rest of the country is ******.


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I watched him Sunday morning and was impressed. I watched a skit of him today and was smacked back into reality when he started his mumbo jumbo on how not one life was disposable. In that I agree. However, his arrogance and political banter was mindless. Because, a guy that truly believes that would have veto'ed a bill that allowed abortion until birth.

He is in a hard spot. If he'd leave the blame of this at the door, leave the criticism of those helping him to himself, and continue to do the job he has done so far, he will indeed be remembered for the way he handled it.

One thing for sure, after watching major Da Blaso this evening, I'm glad Cuomo is the governor.

 

[JustJustin]

You do realize that almost all of the corporate language I mentioned are items that Trump pushed for but the Republicans objected too?


This Bill like every other bill that gets passed has pork for both sides. Looking at one plate full and ignoring the other is doing nothing but playing into the narrative that this two party establishment wants.
If we cant be honest with oursleves how can be expect it from our representatives

I aim to make this my last post about prevalent partisan politics problems.

I don't care a bladeless knife about that corporate stuff. IMO, solar and wind taxes are ridiculous. Emissions are something to think about, but I'm pretty sure that Trump knows as much about viruses and respiratory diseases as Pelosi knows about diesel trucks and jet engines.

My point was, the politicians should quit being politicians and show they actually are trying to represent the American people and pass the CORONAVIRUS bill WITHOUT any other junk. They can worry about emissions some other time.
Meanwhile, Trump could be just as profitable as Congress and the media playing golf like the previous POTUS's have done. He probably deserves a mental relaxation as much as (or more than) the rest of us.

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[Mike7]

Access to loans in order to keep businesses running, which includes money allowing businesses to pay wages while little to no other money is coming into the business and while the govt shuts down the country, is inappropriate from the leftist perspective how?

If it wasn't for employees losing jobs, I would let my business go under before I accepted the money by agreeing to a bunch more social injustice govt interventions that we all know will never go away thereafter.

And did I read correctly that the feds will be on their way to taking over voting/elections from the states in the Pelosi demand?

Trial, you occasionally make some good points which would add to any conversation, but you make it so hard to find them sometimes when you respond mostly by attacking the messenger when you just don't like the message/facts, or you respond by defending bad actions from some just by pointing out the potential bad actions by others.

I am sure there is little that I agree with you on, but you seem like a smart fellow and it is nice to read your opinion when it is not full of the above bs. Just one person's view point for whatever it's worth.

 

[WV Mountaineer]

Agree, but you lean so far left in every post on this topic it's not funny. Most of the crazy republican ideas on the COVID-19 bill atleast have something to do with the crisis. Pelosi's shit is clearly partisan and has absolutely nothing to do with the pandemic...

I gotta agree. But, if I've been told correctly, the republican bill had language in it that didn't require money's loaned to be spent on American growth. I understand they proposed all monies were loans. But, American tax payers ain't in the business of funding corporate growth over seas. I haven't read their bill and only heard that. But, if that is true, and i suspect it is since Tucker Carlson covered it, its as bad as any Democrat agenda.

 

[HuntHarder]

I gotta agree. But, if I've been told correctly, the republican bill had language in it that didn't require money's loaned to be spent on American growth. I understand they proposed all monies were loans. But, American tax payers ain't in the business of funding corporate growth over seas. I haven't read their bill and only heard that. But, if that is true, and i suspect it is since Tucker Carlson covered it, its as bad as any Democrat agenda.

Agree to an extent. The time to get a bill passed is now. Again tho, at least the republican asks have SOMETHING to do with getting the economy on track. It does not say they WILL use the money over seas, it strictly does not prohibit them from doing so. (which is a democrat sticking point) Despite what a bunch on the left think, if you let some of these giant businesses go out of business, it forces companies to use overseas companies to get the products they used to get here. It will also cause the loss of numerous jobs if those companies close. Lets hash out those difference in policy AFTER the USA has started to recover.

 

[JustJustin]

This^^^^

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[Trial153]

This is some scary stuff, anyone of us that has treated ARDS in either an emergency situation or hospital setting can relate this. Stark contrast the general perception of this disease and should shed some light why this so labor intensive from a provider standpoint.

A Medical Worker Describes Terrifying Lung Failure From COVID-19 — Even in His Young Patients

“It first struck me how different it was when I saw my first coronavirus patient go bad. I was like, Holy shit, this is not the flu. Watching this relatively young guy, gasping for air, pink frothy secretions coming out of his tube.”

www.propublica.org

 

[HuntHarder]

Do you just love to post the worst shit possible with this? Do not forget about the 39 year old lady found dead by her boyfriend, the kid today in La county, the idiots in AZ that ate the hydroxychloroquine when they did not have the virus and the husband died. ( they blame trump and his speech), Italy's dogshit healthcare system and aging residents. I mean lets get all the terrible shit out there so we can move on. The reality of this whole situation is that 90% of the US will have mild to flu like symptoms.

If you can not tell, I am so done with the Doom and Gloom bullshit from everyone.
EDIT* I am done with this thread, my Muck boots are no longer high enough.

 

[Trial153]

You want doom and gloom, read this. Why? Only because we are expecting similar results to china in a shorter amount of time and with no where near similar levels of intervention.

Why the West may be misinterpreting Wuhan’s coronavirus progress — The Wall Street Journal

General lockdowns aren’t enough, experts say. What really turned the tide was a shift to a more aggressive and systematic quarantine regime whereby suspected or mild cases were sent to makeshift hospitals and temporary quarantine centers.

apple.news

 

[WV Mountaineer]

Agree to an extent. The time to get a bill passed is now. Again tho, at least the republican asks have SOMETHING to do with getting the economy on track. It does not say they WILL use the money over seas, it strictly does not prohibit them from doing so. (which is a democrat sticking point) Despite what a bunch on the left think, if you let some of these giant businesses go out of business, it forces companies to use overseas companies to get the products they used to get here. It will also cause the loss of numerous jobs if those companies close. Lets hash out those difference in policy AFTER the USA has started to recover.

Hey man, I'm as conservative as they come. 100% USA all the way to the bone. Read my previous posts for confirmation. And, you are right. That is the way he actually said it. My mistake. But, placing American money on the table should come with the understanding that is where it is spent. And, if the Republicans can't agree to have that in the bill they propose, then they are part of the problem.

I align with the republican party on almost every political topic until they start scamming things in.
When I don't, its due to them being left of where they should be. While most of them are good people, they too have some bad ones.

While the democrats most certainly held this up, and would have no matter what, its hard to claim blameless when you have mud on your face too. I hate politicians.

 

[conley417]

Do you just love to post the worst shit possible with this? Do not forget about the 39 year old lady found dead by her boyfriend, the kid today in La county, the idiots in AZ that ate the hydroxychloroquine when they did not have the virus and the husband died. ( they blame trump and his speech), Italy's dogshit healthcare system and aging residents. I mean lets get all the terrible shit out there so we can move on. The reality of this whole situation is that 90% of the US will have mild to flu like symptoms.

If you can not tell, I am so done with the Doom and Gloom bullshit from everyone.
EDIT* I am done with this thread, my Muck boots are no longer high enough.

Italy has dogshit healthcare?

 

[Bubblehide]

Last I read there are now 5 mutations of it here in the U.S.

 

[Dos Perros]

It’s really weird how we have so many cases in the US (and we know the actual number is so much higher due to lack of testing) and so few deaths.