Vortex has no value.

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svivian

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The Coach took you for a fool and abused vortex pro program to make a dime.... yet its Vortex fault. To add insult to injury you came to a public forum on the internet to whine about it. Brilliant
 

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You were not rude at all..and maybe the forum has a bad opinion of Vortex for good reason. Anyway thank you for your input
Still not getting it. Vortex is a very good company for everyman glass. I had some Vipers and they we're great for my kid....not for me after owning Zeiss,Leica my Nikon EDG's and Swaro- but they were 1/4 the price.

if you wanted better you needed to read the excellent optic comparisons available here and other places....this site is a great buyers resource.

I'm not a Vortex fanboy, but hate to see anything scorched for the wrong reason. if you want to be a fair minded sportsman you would change that title to something less hostile....
 

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dude do you even read whatever others post?
i never paid 2500
never purchased what you linked
1k posts but so far you are missing the mark or giving random answers every time you posted here..ARE YOU A RUSSIAN BOT?
He's not, but you seem to be.

$1.05 tax on a 12-1300 dollar item?
What state is this?
 
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He's not, but you seem to be.

$1.05 tax on a 12-1300 dollar item?
What state is this?
I could make public the vendors that has the scope body for $1350 or the 20-60x eyepiece for $475 or the 10x42 NL pure for $2650 ..but i wont. I do believe you'll report them to swarovski for selling bellow MAP pricing. looks like Vortex has family and friends here and they get nervous when you out them...
Enjoy your Vortex because I know I did not..And the guy above you that said "I had some Vipers and they we're great for my kid....not for me" that's child abuse and the kid will remember some day how daddy embarrassed him in front of everyone
 

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Here's the deal, I'm sorry you feel bad because you made a bad deal. That said, not everyone has the money to spend on really expensive glass. I could but choose not to. I also don't talk crap about what other people buy or like. I am very hard on equipment and can't see babying expensive stuff. I have only had an issue with the eyepiece on a spotter and a tripod leg. The warranty was fast and no questions asked. If you want to argue more, I guess the memes might have to come out.
 

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I doubt he was getting kickbacks other than super cheap prices on vortex stuff. My brother sold optics at Cabelas like 10 years ago and every manufacturer has their “pro” discount system. At that time vortex was 60% of their msrp. Most places sell vortex below their MSRP. So while its still a sweet discount its not as much as you think.

The other brands didnt discount as much so all the workers at these places bought vortex for themselves so it was what they were familiar with and therefore could sell easier cause they knew more about their $800 razor spotting scope then a $3000 ATX they had never used. Excellent sales strategy for Vortex.

Swaro had some convoluted point system. You had to sell lots of swaro build points then cash them in to get swaro deals. My brother never sold enough to really get any swaro deals.

50% a browning product once a year if you took some sale class they had.

50% berreta, kimber once a year.

I dont know why anyone buys vortex new when the no fault warranty is transferrable.

Best spotting scope is the kowa btw.
Vortex has one of the best sales incentives programs of all the optics manufacturers.
 
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I am on the VIP discount program with them, I also pick them up used at a discount. If you paid MSRP, that is on you…
 

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I could make public the vendors that has the scope body for $1350 or the 20-60x eyepiece for $475 or the 10x42 NL pure for $2650 ..but i wont. I do believe you'll report them to swarovski for selling bellow MAP pricing. looks like Vortex has family and friends here and they get nervous when you out them...
Enjoy your Vortex because I know I did not..And the guy above you that said "I had some Vipers and they we're great for my kid....not for me" that's child abuse and the kid will remember some day how daddy embarrassed him in front of everyone
Nobodies asked? Are you in the U.S.A.?
Dude, I'm fighting ford right now, I don't have time to report you for a "good deal".
Just share that shit if your going to be a member! ;)
 
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Nobodies asked? Are you in the U.S.A.?
Dude, I'm fighting ford right now, I don't have time to report you for a "good deal".
Just share that shit if your going to be a member! ;)
i need a deal on a LH Hoyt Xceed riser or LH Hoyt XD riser ( i can get either for $750 to my door). You help me, I help you and I promise I wont push any Vortex nonsense on you :)
 
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you see I smartened up and and started researching prices...I found brand new swarovski ats 65HD with 20-60x eyepiece for $1800 to my door
yes i paid full price for this

you linked a 3rd party..same reason i started this thread..showing manufacturer msrp is a joke
Everybody knows Vortex MSRP is a joke, it’s so vendors can sell them and look like it’s on sale when that’s actually the MAP. Been that way as long as I’ve been buying them. I actually just bought the 27-60 version for $800 less than your Swarovski, zero complaints and no fogging issues.

Started selling a bunch of stuff to fund rebuilding my rifles and the only things I’ve sold that I got anywhere close to what I paid are Manners Stocks, SilencerCo Radius and Berger Bullets, everything else sold for much less.

I could make public the vendors that has the scope body for $1350 or the 20-60x eyepiece for $475 or the 10x42 NL pure for $2650 ..but i wont. I do believe you'll report them to swarovski for selling bellow MAP pricing. looks like Vortex has family and friends here and they get nervous when you out them...
Enjoy your Vortex because I know I did not..And the guy above you that said "I had some Vipers and they we're great for my kid....not for me" that's child abuse and the kid will remember some day how daddy embarrassed him in front of everyone

You came on to a site to complain you overpaid for a spotting scope you didn’t like and got mad that the people who paid much less than you set the used market selling price lower than you wanted it to be.

You are now literally doing the same thing you are complaining about, by telling people you paid 72% of MAP for your spotting scope you are undercutting the used market and screwing everyone that paid full price for their Swarovski by lowering the used price. After all who is going to pay $2,500 when you can get it for $1,800 and why pay full price for used gear so now the used price drops to $1,600 or 64% of MAP, just above the 50% you got for your Vortex.

Enough people do that and the Swarovski used market becomes exactly the same as the Vortex market that you are complaining about.
 
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Love that you found one of the 5 people you could have said that too.
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Apples to apples. How can I even address his argument when he trying to imply I might crash swaro market? How can I explain that his argument is faulty when the sale I found is not a manufacturer one , like vortex, but rather a vendor one? I used a dumb reply to a dumb argument
 

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I could make public the vendors that has the scope body for $1350 or the 20-60x eyepiece for $475 or the 10x42 NL pure for $2650 ..but i wont. I do believe you'll report them to swarovski for selling bellow MAP pricing. looks like Vortex has family and friends here and they get nervous when you out them...
Enjoy your Vortex because I know I did not..And the guy above you that said "I had some Vipers and they we're great for my kid....not for me" that's child abuse and the kid will remember some day how daddy embarrassed him in front of everyone
I could make public the vendors that has the scope body for $1350 or the 20-60x eyepiece for $475 or the 10x42 NL pure for $2650 ..but i wont. I do believe you'll report them to swarovski for selling bellow MAP pricing. looks like Vortex has family and friends here and they get nervous when you out them...
Enjoy your Vortex because I know I did not..And the guy above you that said "I had some Vipers and they we're great for my kid....not for me" that's child abuse and the kid will remember some day how daddy embarrassed him in front of everyone
Bro… for a FNG your approach to conversations and your middle school attacks won’t get you very far. I’m just a member but if this was my forum I would’ve already cut you off. “Child abuse” and “kid will remember some day how daddy embarrassed him”. Take a hike bro, you wouldn’t last 5 minutes in my camp running your mouth like that.
 
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