UT's land grab rejected by Supreme Court

[TurkeyReaper69]

Utah would be better off pushing for better or revised management standards then wasting Tax payer money on this BS.

I sometimes suspected that was always the intention. Like someone else mentioned above "a flare in the night to alert R president and congress". What does Utah want? Increased royalty payments on O&G to the state? Higher PILT? The antiquities act to be repealed? Was this all a bargaining chip to achieve something?

Right after the election and around the time the Uintah and Ouray Rez filed suit against them they slightly changed course on this whole charade

 

[TurkeyReaper69]

Not to mention millions of acres have been and will be given to the native corporations from the blm.


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Republicans want to sell land to their friends, Dems want "costewardship" or "tribal management" of federal lands. Two sides of the same damn coin.

We, the public land owners get f**ked either way.

 

[TurkeyReaper69]

As an Alaskan I’m extremely torn on this topic. State management likely leads to eventual sales and once it’s gone it’s gone. On the flip side, federal dictatorship about land use is reaching sky high levels.

If you had massive federal closures superseding your state fish and games management model like we do, you may not be as cheerful to keep the Feds in control. An overhaul of the department of interior would be epic but likely never to happen.

Not to hijack this thread, but Secretary Haaland was just able to quietly slip on additional members to the federal subsistence board (who will represent tribal interests in AK), I sure as hell hope the new administration is able to get representation from a hunting and angling group and the ADFG a permanent spot at that table.

Biden-Harris Administration Strengthens Alaska Tribal Representation on Federal Subsistence Board | U.S. Department of the Interior

The Departments of the Interior and Agriculture today announced a final rule to strengthen Alaska Tribal representation on the Federal Subsistence Board (FSB), which manages subsistence use on federal lands and waters in Alaska.

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[FuddRucker]

Great news, but the fight is not over. Public lands will always have a target on them from wealthy folks who see the "vacant" land as an opportunity to line their friends' and their own pockets.

 

[WRO]

Republicans want to sell land to their friends, Dems want "costewardship" or "tribal management" of federal lands. Two sides of the same damn coin.

We, the public land owners get f**ked either way.

They’re flat giving it away and we get nothing for it, no tax base from the profits from extraction etc..

Same bull shit different instead of an elephant we have a donkey.

 

[HNTR918]

Grazing on state and blm lands is cheaper than any private lands, and is typically the best wintering grounds as well.
Most states land boards require that they take the highest revenue possible for the land.
We should get together and add a fee or additional cost to say the hunting license as a payment to the state land board to buy the land use back from the grazers.
Leaving more feed on the ground for winter herds, attracting more wildlife, and leading to better hunting.

 

[WRO]

Grazing on state and blm lands is cheaper than any private lands, and is typically the best wintering grounds as well.
Most states land boards require that they take the highest revenue possible for the land.
We should get together and add a fee or additional cost to say the hunting license as a payment to the state land board to buy the land use back from the grazers.
Leaving more feed on the ground for winter herds, attracting more wildlife, and leading to better hunting.

As a counter point, the grazers create and maintain water sources, do upkeep on fences, etc.


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[HNTR918]

As a counter point, the grazers create and maintain water sources, do upkeep on fences, etc.


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Great point on water sources!
We as hunters should definitely be working to add more water sources on the land scape.

I would say the fence removal would actually help species like pronghorn in winter.

 

[TurkeyReaper69]

They’re flat giving it away and we get nothing for it, no tax base from the profits from extraction etc..

Same bull shit different instead of an elephant we have a donkey.

Federal government says land exchange proposed by billionaire in Grand and Summit counties is complete

Officials in Colorado are applauding after the federal government announced Monday, Jan. 13, that it has completed a land exchange trading parcels of private land for public land in Summit and Grand counties. The Bureau...

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Check out this land exchange that was just completed. Incredibly unpopular in the local community, yes the BLM gained more surface estate, but at the detriment to angling opportunities.

Whenever you see "land transfer proposed by billionaire" its more than likely not a win for the public land user.