Utah- what the hell?

[mtwarden]

Got two different emails today.

One is our friend Senator Mike Lee's HOUSE Act- lets states and local govts buy up federal lands to put houses up- low income, condos, whatever...... great idea Mike!

https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2023/12/03/opinion-dont-be-fooled-by-mike/

Then evidently the state of Utah not to be outdone; the state legislature is pushing a suit to control 18.5 million acres of public federal lands.

https://www.boisestatepublicradio.o...control-over-millions-of-acres-of-public-land

Nice work!

 

[MuleyFever]

Utah trying to take control of federal lands

Looks like they have filed a lawsuit to take 18.5M acres. Funny thing was, on the news they were talking about the cost to fight wildfires this year and how UT will have to pay for some of it because the fires were on state land. The next story was UT suing to get more lands. I don't like the...

rokslide.com

Exactly what you would expect from him.

 

[Ucsdryder]

This would be a disaster. This is the type of thing that would make me consider switching teams. Sorry, not that team @sndmn11.

 

[IdahoBeav]

Got two different emails today.

One is our friend Senator Mike Lee's HOUSE Act- lets states and local govts buy up federal lands to put houses up- low income, condos, whatever...... great idea Mike!

I won't speak to this particular bill or Lee's agenda, but allowing federal land to be sold and developed is not a bad idea as long as it is done with careful selection and honest consideration of critical wildlife habitat.

 

[IdahoElk]

Illegals need housing and we're going to build it for them and pay for it too!

 

[Lawnboi]

We need less government.

 

[ben h]

I won't speak to this particular bill or Lee's agenda, but allowing federal land to be sold and developed is not a bad idea as long as it is done with careful selection and honest consideration of critical wildlife habitat.

As someone who is from the west who has lived on the east side of the country for the last 3 years, I completely disagree with selling of federal lands (or selling anything that belongs to future generations). There may be cases it could be warranted, but I would not open pandora's box.

 

[Red Letters]

As someone who is from the west who has lived on the east side of the country for the last 3 years, I completely disagree with selling of federal lands (or selling anything that belongs to future generations). There may be cases it could be warranted, but I would not open pandora's box.

Not only that the government is worse than a crackhead with a stolen credit card. The money would be wasted before it ever was ever used on the intended purpose. The land in theory will always be there the cash will disappear faster than flash paper.

 

[IdahoBeav]

As someone who is from the west who has lived on the east side of the country for the last 3 years, I completely disagree with selling of federal lands (or selling anything that belongs to future generations). There may be cases it could be warranted, but I would not open pandora's box.

How do you want to solve the housing crisis? Every government solution is a disaster. Why not let the free market do it? I'm fortunate enough that I can afford to live in a highly desirable location in the Mountain West. It doesn't seem right that a yuppie like me can move into a booming area while working class (and I don't mean burger flippers. I'm talking tradesmen) native Idahoans are priced out and have to move to GA, Upstate NY, SC, etc. where they can afford to live. Meanwhile, the feds have millions of acres of snake & rabbit land locked up, land that could be developed to increase the housing supply, in turn lowering the demand and cost.

 

[IdahoBeav]

We need less government.

There are a lot of guys on this site and the hunting community that will preach this until red in the face, turn around and lose their minds at the idea of the federal government losing ownership of some land.

 

[Bubblehide]

And people thought California and Washington were bad .

 

[flathead#2]

Gotta make room for the 18 million illegals
Somehow I'm not surprised.

 

[BRTreedogs]

How do you want to solve the housing crisis? Every government solution is a disaster. Why not let the free market do it? I'm fortunate enough that I can afford to live in a highly desirable location in the Mountain West. It doesn't seem right that a yuppie like me can move into a booming area while working class (and I don't mean burger flippers. I'm talking tradesmen) native Idahoans are priced out and have to move to GA, Upstate NY, SC, etc. where they can afford to live. Meanwhile, the feds have millions of acres of snake & rabbit land locked up, land that could be developed to increase the housing supply, in turn lowering the demand and cost.

Close the borders, institute a single child policy.
Sterilization for anyone with more then one felony conviction.

 

[CorbLand]

I won't speak to this particular bill or Lee's agenda, but allowing federal land to be sold and developed is not a bad idea as long as it is done with careful selection and honest consideration of critical wildlife habitat.

Careful and honest? You going to leave it up to politicians and government agencies to make a consideration that is careful and honest?

 

[cck311]

I saw no less than three "stand for our land" billboards on my drive home today between point of the mountain and Spanish Fork. They are airing "stand for our land" TV commercials as well. On their "stand for our land" website they make out the BLM and the federal government as the bad guys trying to restrict all our recreation and access and try to claim they will be public land friendly in preserving it for us.

Stand for our Land – Let Utah Manage Utah Land

standforourland.utah.gov

 

[IdahoBeav]

Careful and honest? You going to leave it up to politicians and government agencies to make a consideration that is careful and honest?

As opposed to the politicians and government agencies in Washington? lmao

 

[cck311]

Sign the petition against Utah's lawsuit here:

Take Action

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.

www.backcountryhunters.org

 

[CorbLand]

As opposed to the politicians and government agencies in Washington? lmao

You truly think your state government cares about you anymore than the federal does? They all are ******* you sideways every day. The sooner people realize that the better. Doesn’t matter state, federal, local, red, blue, green or yellow. They are all doing it to make themselves and there friends rich.

It’s all a big club and you ain’t in it.

 

[IdahoBeav]

. . . institute a single child policy.
Sterilization for anyone with more then one felony conviction.

That certainly sounds like the Land of the Free.

I notice that everyone complaining about overpopulation is never willing to off themselves. It reminds me of celebrities that fly around the country in private jets and preach about threat of climate change and dire need for strong armed government action.

 

[TaperPin]

I hear talk about BLM land grabs for some new highways in Nevada, but some how the land isn’t just for the road, but also includes commercial and residential development. The developers must be spending millions to smooze politicians in this election year.