I actually use an old pair of vortex razor 8’s when I’m hunting timber, the 12’s are fantastic for most situations, timber is not one of them. But they are my go to for scouting and any type of rifle/ glassing intensive huntYeah, the 8’s are unreal. I hunt in dark timber that is extremely thick. I swear looking through them it’s like it’s no longer dark and you can see the entire forest. Depth of field too. Amazes me how close and far you can see all at once without dialing. I’ve never looked through the 10’s but I hear they are amazing too.