Unknown suppressors OG testing

[Carl Ross]

I’ve made it out shooting with my OG twice now. The first shot, it sounded a little loud, to be honest. However, everyone around me that day was shooting TBAC Magnus cans which are $$$, high volume, and especially quiet. They’re different categories of suppressor’s.

Hard to say for certain, but I feel like the OG got slightly quieter as I got some rounds on it. After a couple hundred shots I did a head to head with my Ultra 7 Gen 2, my go to hunting can.



OG on a 24” Seekins 6 Creed, Ultra 7 on a 22” Tikka 243. I went back and forth maybe 15 shots each side by side. Sometimes I thought the Ultra 7 was a whisker quieter, sometimes I thought it was a wash. I expect the Ultra 7 would meter ever so slightly better, but could be wrong, my ears aren’t calibrated or anything. They were close, close enough that I really don’t care from a sound perspective. I do prefer the OG form factor for adding less overall length, which is a much clearer difference to me than anything acoustically. New go to hunting can personally.

 

[joshs]

Hard to say for certain, but I feel like the OG got slightly quieter as I got some rounds on it.

I think most cans sound a little better once they are fouled a bit. Obviously once it’s so bad that it substantially reduces the internal volume the performance will get worse, but I definitely notice a small, but consistent difference between a new or completely clean can and one that has at least some fouling. This is why I don’t bother with some of the cleaning methods that aim to get the baffles completely clean. I just don’t think it’s worth it as long as you get close to the starting weight.

 

[JTL28]

Great information in this thread. I am looking for a new .30 cal titanium can, and the more I read about the OG, the more it am looking at purchasing one.


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[JGRaider]

Got the first 50 rounds through the OG, it’s trued & ready for the season. I’ve been shipped out of town constantly the last two weeks and the guys at the range were doing a training so we didn’t really take the time to compare to other suppressors. One shot without ear pro did lightly ring my ears, same as other guys have posted.

What I can say is that I had zero issues with the can coming loose, and that whether it is or isn’t quieter than a another that it’s being compared to…it’s still better than bare muzzle for hunting...........

Well I would hope so, and that's not saying much. Otherwise, why have a suppressor?

So, you are saying you would wear hearing protection while hunting? Even with a suppressor?


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I'll use muffs/plugs/both all day long at the range no problem. While hunting, my personal preference is no way. If my suppressor "rings" my ears with single or a very few sparse shots then IMO I've got the wrong suppressor. The Resonators do not do this on my rifles, neither does the AB8.

 

[xrangerx]

I went and fondled my OG on Thursday and finished the eform. Approved this morning but I’m traveling for work for 2 weeks. Stoked to get it in hand. Glad I paid for it before my AC unit crashed…

 

[Tommyhaak]

The two OGs I use regularly were metered at 131 dB at the shooter’s ear. Comparable to a bit better than many cans available. The tone is what makes them so favorable to shoot. I’d describe it as a much lower frequency absent of any ring. They are also much simpler as a one piece rather than a modular setup with qd devices, thread on end caps, weird muzzle brakes, and over baffle sleeves. You’ll get some titanium sparks with the first few shots as the internal “boogers” get consumed from the printing process.

 

[ztc92]

They are also much simpler as a one piece rather than a modular setup with qd devices, thread on end caps, weird muzzle brakes, and over baffle sleeves.

For all those following along, this may be the most undervalued aspect of the OG. Just yesterday I was shooting my scythe and getting wild groups and POI shifts. Thought it was a loose scope or action screw but turns out a small piece of suppressor cover got into one of the ports of the brake and was affecting gas flow (I think). I fixed that and it shot better for a bit, but then the suppressor came loose from the Hub mount, so had to fix that with rockset. The last straw is how difficult it is to tape or cover the muzzle due to how all the texture and divots on the end cap.

All that futzing wasted about 20 rounds yesterday and when I used the OG on that same gun I didn’t have a single headache related to the suppressor.

 

[gtriple]

For all those following along, this may be the most undervalued aspect of the OG. Just yesterday I was shooting my scythe and getting wild groups and POI shifts. Thought it was a loose scope or action screw but turns out a small piece of suppressor cover got into one of the ports of the brake and was affecting gas flow (I think). I fixed that and it shot better for a bit, but then the suppressor came loose from the Hub mount, so had to fix that with rockset. The last straw is how difficult it is to tape or cover the muzzle due to how all the texture and divots on the end cap.

All that futzing wasted about 20 rounds yesterday and when I used the OG on that same gun I didn’t have a single headache related to the suppressor.

There are countless other suppressors on the market that are simpler than the OG.

Edit for clarity: a non-modular, direct thread, no end cap suppressor is not a new thing. If anything, having to have a special adapter and tool to go to 1/2x28 is an additional complexity over using standard adapters. Plus being restricted to barrel size adds complexity.

 

[Tommyhaak]

There are countless other suppressors on the market that are simpler than the OG.

Edit for clarity: a non-modular, direct thread, no end cap suppressor is not a new thing. If anything, having to have a special adapter and tool to go to 1/2x28 is an additional complexity over using standard adapters. Plus being restricted to barrel size adds complexity.

Sure, ok. Countless is a general statement. Printed cans by design will be simpler than machined components assembled into a weldment and/or threaded together. Most of us have been stuck with the latter until now with DMLS tech allowing complex printed geometry. A can that is only one part? Simpler.

 

[gtriple]

Sure, ok. Countless is a general statement. Printed cans by design will be simpler than machined components assembled into a weldment and/or threaded together. Most of us have been stuck with the latter until now with DMLS tech allowing complex printed geometry. A can that is only one part? Simpler.

No disagreement. I like the simplicity of the OG. Was just pointing out that it’s not necessarily unique in that regard.

 

[Brontosaurus]

The two OGs I use regularly were metered at 131 dB at the shooter’s ear. Comparable to a bit better than many cans available. The tone is what makes them so favorable to shoot. I’d describe it as a much lower frequency absent of any ring. They are also much simpler as a one piece rather than a modular setup with qd devices, thread on end caps, weird muzzle brakes, and over baffle sleeves. You’ll get some titanium sparks with the first few shots as the internal “boogers” get consumed from the printing process.

 

[solarshooter]

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Some yearn to become Master Sporters. I, on the other hand, dream of becoming a Master Debater.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Some yearn to become Master Sporters. I, on the other hand, dream of becoming a Master Debater.

My Dad used to make that joke when getting fishing lines ready for us kids and my Mom. He was a "master baiter". Haha Dad.

 

[Styer22]

Picked up my OG yesterday and got to put about 50 rounds through it today with my 20” 223 tikka. Shot 6 sequential shots with no ears. Had no ringing and it was pretty pleasant. Absolutely zero complains for a can that only adds 4” to over all length. Exactly what I was looking for. May have even tightened up my groups as I was able to shoot a 0.75moa 10 shot group with some AAC 75gr TMK.

 

[Tommyhaak]

Picked up my OG yesterday and got to put about 50 rounds through it today with my 20” 223 tikka. Shot 6 sequential shots with no ears. Had no ringing and it was pretty pleasant. Absolutely zero complains for a can that only adds 4” to over all length. Exactly what I was looking for. May have even tightened up my groups as I was able to shoot a 0.75moa 10 shot group with some AAC

Not sure where the desire to test cans without hearing protection is coming from.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Not sure where the desire to test cans without hearing protection is coming from.

So you can see what it sounds like when you are hunting. The whole point of the suppressor is to get the sound down below the OSHA hearing safe threshold for one or two shots. Of course we should all wearing additional hearing protection for extended shooting sessions like at the range.


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[Brontosaurus]

Not sure where the desire to test cans without hearing protection is coming from.

Eh its a 223. My suppressed 223 is quieter than my nail gun I use for work every day.

 

[Kaleb]

So you can see what it sounds like when you are hunting. The whole point of the suppressor is to get the sound down below the OSHA hearing safe threshold for one or two shots. Of course we should all wearing additional hearing protection for extended shooting sessions like at the range.


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If I was never going to fire a shot without hearing protection I don’t think I’d have any suppressors. I also appreciate the recoil reduction and sometimes animals aren’t as spooked. Sometimes they are. The biggest reason I shoot suppressed is I shoot varmints and other random stuff around the farm. Shots that I’m not expecting. I love how my ears don’t ring when I shoot a coyote skunk armadillo stray tom cat etc etc.

I admit being from a small country town and probably wasn’t taught everything exactly right but I’m just as amazed by how some people are blown away that others take a few suppressed shots with no ear pro. Way better than no ear pro and it doesn’t bother my ears at all.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Eh its a 223. My suppressed 223 is quieter than my nail gun I use for work every day.

You should probably be wearing hearing protection while using the nail gun. At least according to OSHA.


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[Formidilosus]

but I’m just as amazed by how some people are blown away that others take a few suppressed shots with no ear pro. Way better than no ear pro and it doesn’t bother my ears at all.

That’s not what people are confused by or questioning. Everyone I know and have met will shoot suppressed while hunting without ear protection- that’s the whole point. It’s the “I want to see if it will damage my ears on a range” that is causing the questions. You don’t have calibrated ears to see what the dB is, and whether it sounds loud or not is dependent on a whole bunch of variables so you’re not even accomplishing what you think you are- shoot it in a different day, in different conditions, and off a range and it can seem loud or quiet.

It’s akin to getting a bike helmet that is rated for impacts, and then saying “well it’s supposed to protect my skull during wrecks- but I want to test it. So I’m going to ride straight into a tree and see if my skull gets crushed or my neck breaks”.

The OG is way below OSHA standard of 140dB at the ear- Full stop. No one is lying about that- they’re shooting TBAC UL7 Gen2 right beside it every single time they are measured to have ensure a baseline. So unless you believe that US is lying about the db rating; well even if you do- you have no way to measure it. So purposely shooting without ear protection on a range to “see if it’s loud”…. It isn’t real bright to put it nicely.