Unknown Suppressors OG-M maybe?

Would you be interested in this?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 88.5%

  • No

    Votes: 3 11.5%
  • Total voters
    26
Formidilosus said:
The OG is definitely not for you then. But- neither is the can I showed above. I would suggest you look at the AB Raptor 10 with OTB, and the CGS 338 can- or any of the really good 338 cans. US has made a 9” long muzzle forward 1.55” diameter can. It is awesome- one of the best sounding, quietest 30cal cans I have ever used- but I don’t know if they will offer it.
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I guess I should have specified- the most suppression possible out of a ~10oz Ti hunting can. I'm very happy with my DA Nomad but would love some extra balance of the OTB design, even if it cost an ounce or 2 but has the "tone" by design. I think they'll nail the OG-M and I'll end up with one.
 
Formidilosus said:
The OG is definitely not for you then. But- neither is the can I showed above. I would suggest you look at the AB Raptor 10 with OTB, and the CGS 338 can- or any of the really good 338 cans. US has made a 9” long muzzle forward 1.55” diameter can. It is awesome- one of the best sounding, quietest 30cal cans I have ever used- but I don’t know if they will offer it.
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Wonder if something like 6" in front, 4" reflex, 1.8" OD (max) could achieve 125 dBA-sh.
 
Harvey_NW said:
I guess I should have specified- the most suppression possible out of a ~10oz Ti hunting can. I'm very happy with my DA Nomad but would love some extra balance of the OTB design, even if it cost an ounce or 2 but has the "tone" by design. I think they'll nail the OG-M and I'll end up with one.
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It won’t be 10oz. That’s the issue. People want everything with no compromises. Anything longer than the OG, will be heavier.

There are no perfect solutions, only trade-offs.
 
Formidilosus said:
It won’t be 10oz. That’s the issue. People want everything with no compromises. Anything longer than the OG, will be heavier.

There are no perfect solutions, only trade-offs.
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IMO, I believe that extra 3-4 oz is a compromise the vast majority of hunters are willing to accept if it's 130db at the ear as you say. There are virtually no 6" cans that can match that db rating.
 
Formidilosus said:
Sure but it’ll weigh 14oz. And it won’t get to 125 dBA. That’s about as the best 9” large cans on the market.
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Oh yeah, weight will be what it is. I'm just curious about what it would take to hit that ~125 dBA SE number in a reflex design that minimizes length in front of barrel. Something that competes with these cans.

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Harvey_NW said:
3" OTB+5.5"×1.7", =/<12oz, ~130 dBA..
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Thats a little longer and a little thinner than OG-L which weighs 15 ounces. That's what kills my buzz for most of these reflex can ideas.

OG sounds enticing if I were using say a 6 GT or smaller case. Beyond that, its hard to not just live with a 6.5" can like the XC at less than 10 ounces and better suppression.
 
wind gypsy said:
Thats a little longer and a little thinner than OG-L which weighs 15 ounces. That's what kills my buzz for most of these reflex can ideas.

OG sounds enticing if I were using say a 6 GT or smaller case. Beyond that, its hard to not just live with a 6.5" can like the XC at less than 10 ounces and better suppression.
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This was my exact dilemma and I chewed on it for weeks before committing to the XC... for now. Maybe another US can variation will catch my eye down the road after more user experiences are shared.
 
Harvey_NW said:
3" OTB+5.5"×1.7", =/<12oz, ~130 dBA..
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1.7” diameter won’t be 12oz. The material weighs what it weighs, and US isn’t interested in their cans Scything.


This is the can above- 9” total and 1.55” diameter. 3.5” OTB, 5.5” muzzle forward, a single light coat of spray paint.


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Weight is not my primary concern- that’s my trade-off. OAL added length and diameter are my primary concerns, with sound reduction being important too. I do not prefer large diameter cans- I don’t like the view through the scope, they look stupid, and they are more bulky which is annoying- all preferences, not facts.
In general for field/backpacking cans I do not want longer than 6” in front of the muzzle- shorter is better. For range use, or where length and weight doesn’t matter, I am happy to use 9” muzzle forward cans and get the max suppression that I can without going stupid big. I’m going to SBR a bolt rifle to do a 12” barreled 223 and 6ARC and use a 9” muzzle forward can- that’s nearing max suppression, and for sub 400 yards that’s a good trade-off to me.
 
Formidilosus said:
1.7” diameter won’t be 12oz. The material weighs what it weighs, and US isn’t interested in their cans Scything.


This is the can above- 9” total and 1.55” diameter. 3.5” OTB, 5.5” muzzle forward, a single light coat of spray paint.


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Weight is not my primary concern- that’s my trade-off. OAL added length and diameter are my primary concerns, with sound reduction being important too. I do not prefer large diameter cans- I don’t like the view through the scope, they look stupid, and they are more bulky which is annoying- all preferences, not facts.
In general for field/backpacking cans I do not want longer than 6” in front of the muzzle- shorter is better. For range use, or where length and weight doesn’t matter, I am happy to use 9” muzzle forward cans and get the max suppression that I can without going stupid big. I’m going to SBR a bolt rifle to do a 12” barreled 223 and 6ARC and use a 9” muzzle forward can- that’s nearing max suppression, and for sub 400 yards that’s a good trade-off to me.
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Well, shit. Staying tuned anyway.

wind gypsy said:
Thats a little longer and a little thinner than OG-L which weighs 15 ounces. That's what kills my buzz for most of these reflex can ideas.

OG sounds enticing if I were using say a 6 GT or smaller case. Beyond that, its hard to not just live with a 6.5" can like the XC at less than 10 ounces and better suppression.
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Agreed. Let's hammer DA's inbox for a 2oz reflex to screw into the hub? :unsure: :LOL:
 
Formidilosus said:
I believe currently that would be considered a separate suppressor by the ATF.
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Yeah, I remember reading that in a thread about AB's. Hopefully with the tax stamp change they continue to pursue removing cans from the NFA entirely so we don't have to deal with the BS anymore.. But with Form 4's clearing quickly and no tax stamp fee, might actually be a viable option.
 
Harvey_NW said:
But it was marketed as being hearing safe with a more pleasant tone, which was great until the feedback from unbiased users was reported and they said it was perceivably louder than competitors, and made their ears ring from a single shot. That's a bit of a clash, IMHO. I personally want both of those design benefits, which is why I'm advocating for testing a similar design with more volume.
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I was one that said it seemed louder than my other cans but it didn’t ring my ears at all. After shooting it some maybe fouling it up I find it to be like all my others except it’s 2+ inches shorter and I have no concerns with it blowing up. Two points for that haha.

All my cans are more alike than different and most of my chamberings are too. I’m sure that’s why I can’t tell that much difference between them. The only suppressor I’ve ever used between mine and friends that was better was the Hyperion. That said it’s huge so it should be better and apparently that’s what it takes.?

I said in the beginning if the OG wasn’t as good as what I have I’d be disappointed. If it’s as good as what I have but shorter I’d be happy. If it was better I’d be thrilled. I’m a happy customer and wish I’d have shot it more before giving my first reply. That said if you’re looking for something better sounding or more quiet than what you currently have this possible up coming slightly longer can might be better.? It certainly has my attention.
 
Not that I’m looking to do that or anywhere near that but out of curiosity about how many rounds does it take to get one that hot?
 
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