UM/S2H/Suppressors/Scopes and More!

[diverc18]

Aside from the suppressors, any more information about the ballpark price of the Raven action? Trying to decide if I need to pick up another tikka donor or wait it out.

 

[The Guide]

That doesn’t help. The website assumes the reader knows what they are writing about. I have a suppressor that threads on the end of the muzzle. It has some different adapters for various threads. It makes it quiet so I don’t need ear muffs and reduces recoil. What’s the difference?

This should help...

Jay

 

[dailyherold]

That’s good. The goals for this first can are:

1). Hearing safe- sub 140dB at shooters ear
2). Shortest added oal to rifle
3). Better balance to the rifle
4). Around 10oz or less
5). More of a hollow sound if possible.

This list is great. The only other characteristic that I felt was important in my recent suppressor purchase (CAT JL/Alleycat 308) was consistency of first shot measurements relative to all subsequent shots in a string.

Pewscience takes aside, they refer to it as "first-round-pop" (FRP). Some cans have a divergence on that first round measurement, which to my simple mind, seemed suboptimal for hunting...and ears.

@Formidilosus, curious with your experience and all the testing y'all have done on cans, if "FRP" is even noticeable in the field? And if so, was it factored into the design of this UM suppressor?

 

[gbflyer]

Got it. Reflex is a flashy term for over barrel. I thought it must be something new.

 

[Chris_in_Idaho]

These discussions are enjoyable. You can own multiple suppressors that have similar decibel levels but produce very different sounds. For instance, consider the Ultra 7 and the Raptor 8 Stack (No Reflex). While both are comparable in decibels, most people who have heard them prefer the AB. I don't own any suppressor companies, but when asked to assist in designing one, I want it to be as short as possible in front of the muzzle, hearing safe, and produce a hollow sound. I don't think Form and I are alone in wanting a can like this.

@Ryan Avery
How about putting together a Post Falls Suppressor Summit where some of us poors who only have a single suppressor can come compare the sound of different ones?
Maybe it could be a session at this year's HAHA?

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus, curious with your experience and all the testing y'all have done on cans, if "FRP" is even noticeable in the field? And if so, was it factored into the design of this UM suppressor?

First round pop is a thing. But, I can’t say that any of the normal cans I use or are around have a noticeable FRP. IIRC the only “hunting” can that had a noticeable FRP was the Gunwerks can.

 

[Plague]

Got it. Reflex is a flashy term for over barrel. I thought it must be something new.

Not always, at least one can that I know of is a reflex style but not over the barrel.

 

[BjornF16]

First round pop is a thing. But, I can’t say that any of the normal cans I use or are around have a noticeable FRP. IIRC the only “hunting” can that had a noticeable FRP was the Gunwerks can.

What can are y'all trying to meet/exceed in performance?

 

[Formidilosus]

What can are y'all trying to meet/exceed in performance?

We’re not trying to “beat” any can.


These are the design goals:

1). Hearing safe- sub 140dB at shooters ear
2). Shortest added oal to rifle
3). Better balance to the rifle
4). Around 10oz or less
5). More of a hollow sound if possible.


The way to get there is an OTB Ti suppressor.

 

[LCV]

We’re not trying to “beat” any can.


These are the design goals:

1). Hearing safe- sub 140dB at shooters ear
2). Shortest added oal to rifle
3). Better balance to the rifle
4). Around 10oz or less
5). More of a hollow sound if possible.


The way to get there is an OTB Ti suppressor.

Something I’ve wondered as an auto enthusiast.

Titanium exhausts tend to sound “tinny” or higher pitched compared to steel exhausts. Have you observed any noteworthy difference in Ti vs steel suppressors in this regard?

I assume not, or not enough to matter since you’re going with titanium.