ULUL 223 Wylde and 6x45 portless barrel thread

[Trackselk]

Ok, please go back and edit your responses in the poll if you want multiples or both types. I think I have it covered with the new options up to 3 barrels of both types

 

[Trackselk]

Would there be a possibility of getting a 223AI?? If the price was this good, I wouldn't pass one up.

Or, load up some of the new nickel/steel cases and get more speed than the AI!

 

[Thegman]

I'm betting that it'll take a full 25 for an order, but I think you could easily have a Smith ream one for you out of the wylde barrel

The problem with that is an AI should ideally be set back to a tight headspace, which gets into pulling the barrel extension, etc.

 

[Taudisio]

6x45, 1/8 twist barrel, threaded 1/2x28 is fine with the caveat the people understand to pay attention to the muzzle device they choose. Stainless is preferred. Barrel contour as light as possible, 16” finished length. Seems like the price is a little up in the air, planning on $100 a piece shipped? I’m in for two at that price, maybe a third.

 

[Trackselk]

The problem with that is an AI should ideally be set back to a tight headspace, which gets into pulling the barrel extension, etc.

Yeah, that makes several reasons to avoid it when you can load to those speeds easily with shell shock cases. They're actually pretty cheap per case, but it's a large quantity.

 

[RepeatPete]

In for one of each

 

[Thegman]

Can you buy those as empty cases for reloading.

Yeah, that makes several reasons to avoid it when you can load to those speeds easily with shell shock cases. They're actually pretty cheap per case, but it's a large quantity.

Can you buy those as empty cases for reloading? I'd be interested in testing those in 223 and 300 BO. Their BO loads are not much if any faster than my handloads, but I could probably up my loads with them.

I'll quit my derailing now!!

 

[Trackselk]

Can you buy those as empty cases for reloading.
Can you buy those as empty cases for reloading? I'd be interested in testing those in 223 and 300 BO. Their BO loads are not much if any faster than my handloads, but I could probably up my loads with them.

I'll quit my derailing now!!

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I was wrong, you can get 250 for not too much of an investment

 

[packgoatguy]

As a lot of us might already have a 16 inch shaw portless barrel of similar specs and dimension, i'd be interested in a 223wylde and 6x45 in shorter lengths: 8, 10, 12 inch if possible (prefer 10 or 12). With the same profile as the BCA barrel, with a 1:7 twist.

Also, a muzzle flared out with 5/8x24 threads so we don't have to add the extra weight of the 5/8/24 adapter to run a can.

 

[Trackselk]

I'd be interested in a 223wylde and 6x45 in shorter lengths: 8, 10, 12 inch if possible (prefer 10 or 12). With the same profile as the BCA barrel, with a 1:7 twist.

Also, a muzzle flared out with 5/8x24 threads.

I think for the sake of getting 25 (enough for an order) we'll have to stick with the typical AR 16" barrel specs. I think we'll be lucky to get that many as is.
-16", 1/2x28 threads, wylde chamber, and I'm guessing a 1:7 twist will work for everyone's bullets. Hopefully stainless is available!

-I don't know the standard specs for the 6x45, but it'll be basically the same deal. 25ish people will have to agree on barrel threads (size) and twist

 

[hereinaz]

As a lot of us might already have a 16 inch shaw portless barrel of similar specs and dimension, i'd be interested in a 223wylde and 6x45 in shorter lengths: 8, 10, 12 inch if possible (prefer 10 or 12). With the same profile as the BCA barrel, with a 1:7 twist.

Also, a muzzle flared out with 5/8x24 threads so we don't have to add the extra weight of the 5/8/24 adapter to run a can.

I will ask about all the variations. And, length is one of them.

Personally, I want a 10 or 12” for my SBR lower. 5/8 x 24 makes a lot of sense.

 

[hereinaz]

Post in your “custom” preferences too.

I will ask about pricing for the “custom” requests. I can order one offs, just not sure about the pricing yet. And, not sure how I would charge for it.

I am trying to do the group buy as inexpensive as possible. The customer one off changes the time I have involved.

I know the custom barrel won’t be the bottom dollar I am trying to do for the group buy.

For me, if I personally can buy a barrel and have no need to cut/threads it’s worth a little more for me. I’m not against the BCA with tapping the gas port or backwards block, but it is nice to have a clean option.

So, feel free to ask for your “perfect” barrel options. It won’t hurt for me to ask.

 

[4090Sharps]

I will ask about all the variations. And, length is one of them.

Personally, I want a 10 or 12” for my SBR lower. 5/8 x 24 makes a lot of sense.

I'm in for SBR barrel over rifle length. 5/8x24 is preferable, but not a dealbreaker.

 

[Tailwind5sw]

1 each 6x45 and 556.

 

[KyleR1985]

I'm betting that it'll take a full 25 for an order, but I think you could easily have a Smith ream one for you out of the wylde barrel

Which begs the question, can they make the location pin east to remove( not drilled into the barrel), and only torqued to 50-75ftlbs?

Is so, improving any chamber and setting back barrel accordingly is an easy job.

 

[KyleR1985]

5/8-24 thread on 6x45 preferable but not a dealbreaker if 1/2”.

16” length.

1/8 twist preferred, 1/7.5 or 1/7 fine.

 

[KyleR1985]

Tenon Threaded chambered profiled, muzzle thread cut, with no barrel extension installed and shipped loose would be good for anyone wanting to AI the barrel. Shouldn’t cost more or change programming. Just one less labor intensive step.

 

[Trackselk]

Tenon Threaded chambered profiled, muzzle thread cut, with no barrel extension installed and shipped loose would be good for anyone wanting to AI the barrel. Shouldn’t cost more or change programming. Just one less labor intensive step.

On that subject, I figured I'd give more details on where I'm at on "better than" the AI loads:
I just ordered 250 of the NAS3 cases shipped for under $100. Word is that you can get several loadings with no (FL)sizing (and I think no sizing period) at 60k psi, and I'm pretty sure that will outperform the AI. I'm going to load more like 70-80k, mostly based on a good accuracy node and recoil in a 4lb all in rifle. Mostly worried about recoil degrading good field accuracy...
I think I forgot to mention that they've successfully ran 10's of thousands of these (at 60k psi I believe) in gas guns and noticed minimal increased wear, so we'll likely never see any issues even at 80k in a strait pull.

Edit: I'll be selling my Phantom defence box of 50 69gr TMK in nas3 cases if anyone wants them I'll save you over 10%, just wanted the "brass" and didn't realize that I could get 250 empty cases.

 

[KyleR1985]

On that subject, I figured I'd give more details on where I'm at on "better than" the AI loads:
I just ordered 250 of the NAS3 cases shipped for under $100. Word is that you can get several loadings with no (FL)sizing (and I think no sizing period) at 60k psi, and I'm pretty sure that will outperform the AI. I'm going to load more like 70-80k, mostly based on a good accuracy node and recoil in a 4lb all in rifle. Mostly worried about recoil degrading good field accuracy...
I think I forgot to mention that they've successfully ran 10's of thousands of these (at 60k psi I believe) in gas guns and noticed minimal increased wear, so we'll likely never see any issues even at 80k in a strait pull.

casings can handle the increased pressure.

What about bolt and extension?

 

[Trackselk]

5/8-24 thread on 6x45 preferable but not a dealbreaker if 1/2”.

16” length.

1/8 twist preferred, 1/7.5 or 1/7 fine.

How does everybody else feel about muzzle thread size and twist on the 6x45? Hopefully what Kyle mentioned above works for everyone? I know the 5/8" is very common, and what most suppressors come equipped with (adapter). I will say, if you want to lose a little weight at the end of the barrel, with the si-co cans anyhow, you'll have more titanium and less steel if you go 1/2" muzzle threads, and their 1/2" titanium adapter (about $100). Verify your can has that option before making any decisions based on this though.