Trump goes all KGB on EPA

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There's more than a few of us.... and, trust me, I'm also boggled that I have to vote for Hilary Clinton because the republicans ran a primary full of nut jobs.





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Republican NUT JOBs!!!

Who's rioting in the streets wearing hoods and masks causing damage to businesses injuring people and blocking free speech.

Now that's nut jobs snowflake.
 

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9 pages of this and no one has solved the worlds problems??? Carry on boys.

It's a chore within itself just trying to solve our own country's problems that have exploded onto the scene in the last couple decades. But as we're seeing now, there is resistance at every turn from trying to move us back to the right path. The problems are fairly easy to solve, it's the constant maneuvering around the anti-Americans that takes up the time. And they know that. The more time spent maneuvering, is less time spent actually "Making America Great Again". They're like weeds in a garden.
 
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It's a chore within itself just trying to solve our own country's problems that have exploded onto the scene in the last couple decades. But as we're seeing now, there is resistance at every turn from trying to move us back to the right path. The problems are fairly easy to solve, it's the constant maneuvering around the anti-Americans that takes up the time. And they know that. The more time spent maneuvering, is less time spent actually "Making America Great Again". They're like weeds in a garden.

Yelp, snowflakes want open borders, no immagration restrictions, no oil or gas, cheap renewable energy(but no wind turbines or solar farms or transmission lines in their backyard or have to pay for it , fee college, 75k Macdonald jobs... but want all mfg and Ag/sea food jobs to go overseas so we don't hurt our environment.
 

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"I knew that I was just going to be disappointed in people when I opened this thread. But I did it anyway....

Remember when hunters were the real conservationists? I've been arguing for a while that things have changed, and most hunters have lost their way. This thread just confirms that."




I believe we the Hunter are still the true conservationalists, I believe there are liars out there that pretend to care, EPA and many others and just because we Hunters take exception and do not buy into their retoric and lies dosn't mean we don't care.
I mean when you start fining Cattle Ranchers for their cows farting it is not about the invironment any more it is how to take more money out of the public and business under the pretense of saving the invironment. The EPA has demonstrated they have no bounderies and there is no limit to their greed. We need to get back to true Invironment Protection, that is implemented as we grow in our clean powers, in our automotive polutants decrease and as alternate jobs come on line.
 
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I am very concerned. On where this country is going to be in five to ten years... Its pretty scary.... Carry on U little snowflakes.... Fall right in line like good little sheep................................................
 
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For those hillary voters, what don't you like about Trump, policy wise?

I didn't vote Hillary or trump, but I really like his interior choice and have hope for his Supreme Court choice.

I hope he gets rid of Obamacare, keeps what worked well and replaces what didn't, that's how it should work.

I like that 2a will hopefully be untouched under his watch, and I hope if any land bills get to his desk he breaks out the veto stamp out.

I don't like that he seems to be unable to understand the separation of power, he won't be able to waive his hand and be done with it. That will be hard for him to deal with, or a basic understanding of the constitution and its contents as he has made comments that fly directly against it.

I think building a wall, that US taxpayers are going to pay for one way or the other is idiotic and won't help. I've been to sections on the border where I could literally WALK back and forth from the US to Mexico, there was literally walls then nothing right next to each other. Unless he plans on building the Great Wall of china and stationing armed guards 24/7 it won't make a difference, as they are already digging in to this country.

His immigration ban would have been appeals proof if he would have consulted people outside his White House circle. I don't believe a day will go buy where he thinks he is not the smartest man in the room. Unfortunately he will be wrong in that aspect. I hope he trusts and listens to his staff, even if they don't agree with him.

He needs to stay off twitter and cut down on the disparaging remarks, your the POTUS now, time to go to work, quit firing shots on twitter and let your actions do the talking, 4 years goes quick.

I'm all for cutting back EPA regulations but I'm not foolish enough to believe abolishing it will be "good" for the environment.

I have worries about what he plans to cut out of the Dodd-Frank.

Spicer is a buffoon and needs to be fired, he doesn't have the ability or the demeanor to do his job.




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I voted Johnson the last two elections because I couldn't stomach any of the other choices.

I like a lot of what Trump is doing but listening to narcissistic manner in which he talks makes my head explode. If it were Jeb Bush or Romney (Read: politicians who will say whatever they find politically advantageous at the moment) taking the same actions but pretending to have a sliver of humility while doing it, I don't think we see the same reactions. Read the manuscript on his black history month speech. Cliff notes: "More black people voted for me than Romney, I still have MLK's bust in the white house, MLK was good, Freddrick Douglass was good, I went to the hood with Ben Carson, Omarossa is actually a nice person, God Bless America."

Acting like the EPA serves no purpose is akin to assuming every republican wants to burn the world to the ground in a race for the last dollar to be earned.
 

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I didn't vote Hillary or trump, but I really like his interior choice and have hope for his Supreme Court choice.

I hope he gets rid of Obamacare, keeps what worked well and replaces what didn't, that's how it should work.

I like that 2a will hopefully be untouched under his watch, and I hope if any land bills get to his desk he breaks out the veto stamp out.

I don't like that he seems to be unable to understand the separation of power, he won't be able to waive his hand and be done with it. That will be hard for him to deal with, or a basic understanding of the constitution and its contents as he has made comments that fly directly against it.

I think building a wall, that US taxpayers are going to pay for one way or the other is idiotic and won't help. I've been to sections on the border where I could literally WALK back and forth from the US to Mexico, there was literally walls then nothing right next to each other. Unless he plans on building the Great Wall of china and stationing armed guards 24/7 it won't make a difference, as they are already digging in to this country.

His immigration ban would have been appeals proof if he would have consulted people outside his White House circle. I don't believe a day will go buy where he thinks he is not the smartest man in the room. Unfortunately he will be wrong in that aspect. I hope he trusts and listens to his staff, even if they don't agree with him.

He needs to stay off twitter and cut down on the disparaging remarks, your the POTUS now, time to go to work, quit firing shots on twitter and let your actions do the talking, 4 years goes quick.

I'm all for cutting back EPA regulations but I'm not foolish enough to believe abolishing it will be "good" for the environment.

I have worries about what he plans to cut out of the Dodd-Frank.

Spicer is a buffoon and needs to be fired, he doesn't have the ability or the demeanor to do his job.




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What do you like about Dodd-Frank? It only put smaller banks out of business and made big banks bigger with no real overwatch, true regulation needs to be reduced but made actually effective, doubt he does this but doubt any president does since it hasn't really happened since the crash in 29. Glass-Steagall was better and will help some, there is no regulation,even today, to oversee the CDO trading which is still going strong and led us into our last recession, an exchange and oversight needs to be created.

A wall will reduce some drug and illegal activity but yes not all.

I believe he will keep the good parts about Obamacare.

I agree that he needs to use specialists to help guide his decision making, no one is an expert in everything but then again you don't get to where he has gotten in business, wether you like it or not, without listening to others.

Completely agree he needs to drop the social media and harassing of Arnold.

4 years does go by fast but he's already done more in 3 weeks then any other president in the last 30 years and for once he is doing what he said he would, which most never expect of a politician. He'll receive more criticism then any previous president but he has brought that on himself and he has to own it and deal with it without worrying about how Alec Baldwin portrays him on SNL.

I don't see how anyone can't like his Supreme Court selection.
 
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What do you like about Dodd-Frank? It only put smaller banks out of business and made big banks bigger with no real overwatch other then what the public wants to hear.

Not real clear on how it "put smaller banks out of buissness" but I'd be interested in learning.

The Volcker rule, holding non-bank financial institutions to a set of standards, holding "financial advisors" to a standard, and more oversight regarding credit or derivative swaps.

I'm not going to act like I know everything in it and I'm sure there are things that can be axed, but I still have concerns.


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Not real clear on how it "put smaller banks out of buissness" but I'd be interested in learning.

The Volcker rule, holding non-bank financial institutions to a set of standards, holding "financial advisors" to a standard, and more oversight regarding credit or derivative swaps.

I'm not going to act like I know everything in it and I'm sure there are things that can be axed, but I still have concerns.


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Smaller banks didn't have the capabilities to meet requirements, many have been consolidated into bigger banks but true oversight isn't happening, we now have bigger banks that we can't allow to fail then we did before it. Oh and please explain how it has created oversight of credit swaps, what market are they in now? I mean commodities have their own market but what market is there for swaps or derivatives in banking? I don't think there is adequate oversight and I have an issue with it even being allowed but it is a way for a bank to add some risk with high returns in a market with no interest rates.

It was rushed, similar to Obamacare and just doesn't have the meat people feel it has. Glass-Steagall in its truest stance when enacted in 1933 has much better oversight regulations, they just were not fully enforced and it was slowly picked apart until it was repealed. Also how can anything be regulated when our government continually cuts the budget of those meant to oversee any regulations. Make regulations simpler and more effective in a cheaper manner to manage but our government can't do that, everything has to be 30,000 pages long and must be deciphered by 1,000's of lawyers.

Decent read https://www.mercatus.org/system/files/Peirce_SmallBankSurvey_v1.pdf
 
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His immigration ban would have been appeals proof if he would have consulted people outside his White House circle.

Nothing is appeals proof with idiots in this world. We already have a law on the books that was put into place in the 50's that gives the President the exact powers and rights to do exactly what Trump did with his EO. Just because someone doesn't like it, doesn't mean that it isn't Constitutional. I find it mindboggling that ANYBODY thinks that we don't have the right (and responsibility) to restrict entry into our country. Of course all the illegals find that offensive, and their families that are already here......legally or otherwise.

But I also find it insulting to the American people that all these tech companies are screaming "irreparable damages" by this travel ban, when in fact they have very little to zero immigrants actually working for them from these 7 countries. Over 100 companies screaming this, when they aren't even affected by it.
 
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Smaller banks didn't have the capabilities to meet requirements, many have been consolidated into bigger banks but true oversight isn't happening, we now have bigger banks that we can't allow to fail then we did before it. Oh and please explain how it has created oversight of credit swaps, what market are they in now? I mean commodities have their own market but what market is there for swaps or derivatives in banking? I don't think there is adequate oversight and I have an issue with it even being allowed but it is a way for a bank to add some risk with high returns in a market with no interest rates.

It was rushed, similar to Obamacare and just doesn't have the meat people feel it has. Glass-Steagall in its truest stance when enacted in 1933 has much better oversight regulations, they just were not fully enforced and it was slowly picked apart until it was repealed. Also how can anything be regulated when our government continually cuts the budget of those meant to oversee any regulations. Make regulations simpler and more effective in a cheaper manner to manage but our government can't do that, everything has to be 30,000 pages long and must be deciphered by 1,000's of lawyers.

Decent read https://www.mercatus.org/system/files/Peirce_SmallBankSurvey_v1.pdf

Dot, I appreciate the edification, that reads like it accomplished the exact opposite of what it set out to do originally.

obviously that is just one aspect of the dodd, but it looks like it had consequences that were clearly not envisioned when the rule-making process was finished.
 
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Dot, I appreciate the edification, that reads like it accomplished the exact opposite of what it set out to do originally.

obviously that is just one aspect of the dodd, but it looks like it had consequences that were clearly not envisioned when the rule-making process was finished.

Well back to current events, very interesting news on the NOAA climate change report today. Be interesting to see what comes of this but sounds like facts were not used and facts might have been change to drive political motives.
 
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Nothing is appeals proof with idiots in this world. We already have a law on the books that was put into place in the 50's that gives the President the exact powers and rights to do exactly what Trump did with his EO. Just because someone doesn't like it, doesn't mean that it isn't Constitutional. I find it mindboggling that ANYBODY thinks that we don't have the right (and responsibility) to restrict entry into our country. Of course all the illegals find that offensive, and their families that are already here......legally or otherwise.

But I also find it insulting to the American people that all these tech companies are screaming "irreparable damages" by this travel ban, when in fact they have very little to zero immigrants actually working for them from these 7 countries. Over 100 companies screaming this, when they aren't even affected by it.

Tech industry is about to be in for a rude awakening. the hold period to redefine immigration screening doesn't effect them in any way. Now if trump follows suit on what he is doing to outsourcing MFG's, and attacks the IT inshore visa program same way, it's going to be beautiful.

I hope he doesn't just raise the H1b visa min pay from 50k to 100k but hope he continues and makes it 130k.

If any students are on this board I highly advise learning application development(specifically java) and cloud automation and deployment. Demand for US talent is about to go through the ROOF!!!
 
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Well back to current events, very interesting news on the NOAA climate change report today. Be interesting to see what comes of this but sounds like facts were not used and facts might have been change to drive political motives.

Better read the whole article, which shoots many holes in the critique of the NOAA report, and of the lone critic. Critic claimed study was flawed b/c report was hurried, when in fact it was delayed. The research in question was repeated and found to be spot on by separate studies.
 

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