Tikka mags: Orange, 223, flush, etc. project / future product

pods8 (Rugged Stitching)

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This project grew out of DIY tinkering but needed a spring source to really have traction. I have gotten a quote for having springs made and sent in a sample for final review before authorizing production. It requires a fairly large batch be made to offset the tool change fee. That combined with the realities of the printed material and post processing needed, to hold up on a hot dashboard for instance, the base that was likely to tinker with the project is pretty small. I'd like to recoup spring investment sooner than later and most folks can't or won't want to deal with printing these which would inevitably lead to requests to print them. SO we're gonna just jump ahead to that inevitablity and I am working on bringing this product out eventually (small scale, this is just a side project) assuming no road blocks arise.

As things get closer I'll probably post a poll to get a feel for what quantities / configurations to prioritize. For now lets just have a loose discussion.

Generally if talking about the black color there isn't really any benefit to these over the typical 3rd mag sizes (like L, M, M+) and the factory material is better, no argument. The option to have orange mags, different COAL variants, and flush fit mags is really where this project offers some sort of benefit (up to the user if they see a benefit in it, not all will and that is just fine). You could always just paint a factory mag as well, might as well acknowledge that.

Caveat: All development to date has been with springs out of factory tikka mags, the whole thing hinges on getting some similar springs made up and they function correctly.

The M+, L, and 223 are the most developed and I and a few others have been using them in porotype materials (IE they'd warp on a hot dashboard) and tweaking things. I don't really see any benefit to make an M version when you can just run a M+ on the short bolt stop, does anyone see something I am overlooking to justify an M variant? The body of the 223 mag fits ~2.55" but I haven't tried cycling anything that long because it won't fit into my 223 chamber, 2.45" is the longest I can cycle in my gun.

Some initial work was done on PRC in 3rd and flush (2rd), I don't have a PRC so I haven't been able to really progress much on that other than limited user feedback. More focus can be put on it if there is enough interest.

Brief work on a longer COAL WSM, I do have a WSM and could work on that further eventually. That said I've been happy with my HCA mag for my 300wsm so frankly I'd suggest that if being honest.


What thoughts, comments, questions, suggestions, interest do you all have before I pull the trigger on a run of follower springs?

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I’d try one or two for 223 now. I have absolutely no problems with the ascension mags I have though. They work great. I don’t know about other chamberings but for me the 223’s are the biggest issue because they give you the twist but send the stupid ar length magazines except the ctr. The ctr magazine is fine but I plan on using the factory style magazines for the rokstock. The factory bottom plastic and accession magazines work beautifully and I’m sure these do too.
 
the perfect tikka 223 mag still doesn't exist. waters are super expensive, annoying to get, and the 2.6" keep jamming up while loading. plus they had really sharp edges that gouged some cases, and need filing to fit the bottom metal right.
 
The option to have orange mags, different COAL variants, and flush fit mags is really where this project offers some sort of benefit
Orange--I'm likely to just rattle can mine if its an issue, but hasnt been an issue.
COAL--I dont reload and have zero interest in reloading or long coal. I know this is big with some, but seems very much a niche to me, have a hard time thinking the few people who truly need this and cant already use a M+ mag are enough to justify buying all those parts up front. Maybe more of an aspirational advantage than a true advantage in the big picture?
Flush fit--OK, but can you still get 3+ rounds into a true flush fit? If so, I can see people liking this. If it drops mag size to 2 rounds I'm not sure its much of an advantage. The 3-round tikka mags just arent a big deal functionally, and I cant imagine that many people are so anal-retentive as to let the small protrusion bother them.

To me, I really have no interest in non-oem mags unless I can get either 5-round M+ mags that are closer to flush and feed reliably, and/or 10round M+ mags that feed well and are less $ than waters. 10 round M+ mags that work, sign me up.
 
I’d try one or two for 223 now. I have absolutely no problems with the ascension mags I have though. They work great.
If the springs work like factory ones they could be used with those ones too.
If the material is as durable as the factory ones and they are just as reliable, then I could see purchasing a couple.
It won't be as durable, factory ones are injection molded, can't match that with printing. But if I can drop loaded mags from shoulder height onto concrete I feel like that is reasonable durability.
A good flush mag with longer COAL option would certainly get my attention.
What caliber/version?
I'd be interested for several orange flush fit 2.5"+ 223 mags. Also if you source springs I'd really like to grab a few of those from you as well.
I haven't made a 223 flush yet so not sure if it'd fit 3rds or only 2 like the larger calibers off hand. Yeah if folks need fresh springs for tikka mags and these perform correctly I can sell springs.
Orange--I'm likely to just rattle can mine if its an issue, but hasnt been an issue.
COAL--I dont reload and have zero interest in reloading or long coal. I know this is big with some, but seems very much a niche to me, have a hard time thinking the few people who truly need this and cant already use a M+ mag are enough to justify buying all those parts up front. Maybe more of an aspirational advantage than a true advantage in the big picture?
Flush fit--OK, but can you still get 3+ rounds into a true flush fit? If so, I can see people liking this. If it drops mag size to 2 rounds I'm not sure its much of an advantage. The 3-round tikka mags just arent a big deal functionally, and I cant imagine that many people are so anal-retentive as to let the small protrusion bother them.
-I've lost mags before, the color is niche/fun, I like the labels on them but again that is something you could just marker up on a mag too.
-COAL isn't related to the M+ or L versions, nothing gained there over factory versions. It would be for 223, PRC (can do a longer COAL and/or a mag that protrudes less since the factory one is 4rds), WSM is an option but as I noted the HCA one is a good choice too.
-No, flush only fits 2rds. Folks explicitly asked for that option in the DIY thread, wasn't on my radar prior. I probably wouldn't use them but some folks had specific interest.
 
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