The transformation....I was a fat bastard! :)

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Is home baked bread bad? I am thinking a wheat loaf with wheat germ and some flax seeds.
 

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I like the Romaine idea. What is EVO?
Extra virgin olive oil. First cold press with the strong flavors and highest amounts of all the fats and nutrients. I will add spices like basil , oregano , rosemary , thyme , ect to flaover it for putting on different foods. Most of the time I just get whatever brand is on sale so I get different tastes all the time. They can be quit different brand to brand. I know them more by bottle shape and label color than name brand but there are a couple of brands that have a more sour taste I avoid and the ones with more fruitish flavor is what I like. A big spinach salad soaked in spiced evo is really satisfying.
 

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You guys want results? Eat a Paleolithic diet (or close to it) and join a CrossFit Gym. PERIOD.
I started CrossFit with the intention of improving my conditioning for hunting season.
The compound movements and weights you perform in CrossFit have NO equal in practical application.
Bench presses and curls don't do anything for your ability to pack out an elk quarter up a rocky canyon...
Heavy squats and Olympic snatches on the other hand, do. Work your body from head to toe. In a compound movement.. that's what you need for what we do.
I joined a local CrossFit gym around a year ago. It has changed my life as well as my wife's.
I was in OK shape, I wouldn't say I was obese, but definitely over weight for my frame.
Now, I can out hike, out pack and out work anyone I hunt with. There is no comparison how much further and harder I can go than last year.
Energy, Strength, Stamina, Balance, and overall change in your body composition. That is what you will experience.
But, you must take one with the other. There is no "silver bullet" or easy way. You have to change your Life Style if you want to have a real, lasting effect.
Diet COMBINED with a regular, intense, exercise routine is the only way to become the "wilderness athlete" you are striving to be.
The Paleolithic diet is a low inflammatory diet, helps a ton with swelling and soreness as well as digestive issues. It is a key to becoming leaner and stronger.

CrossFit is hard, its hard as hell actually. And it's not for everyone. But neither is chasing after Muley bucks up a snowy canyon at 9000' :D But after you start to see results and experience how much better you feel, you wont go back. Young or old, you can CrossFit, I have some 70+ year old people that lift weights with me regularly. Its all about scalability, we can make any exercise "do-able" for anyone, regardless of skill level. There's a great community and brotherhood you will find when you CrossFit, your suffering binds you together and pushes you further than you thought possible. This suffering and finding your limits lends itself directly into our "High Mountain Hunting" lifestyle. It physically prepares you for anything you may come across in the great wide open. But more than that, having the confidence in your physical conditioning translates itself into mental toughness which is the real key to going further, harder, longer, and hopefully coming out heavier.

Got any questions about CrossFit or Paleo eating? message or email me, id be happy to help out!
 
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research it before you start to make sure you join the right box with the right coach and that its for you.

You guys want results? Eat a Paleolithic diet (or close to it) and join a CrossFit Gym. PERIOD.
The compound movements and weights you perform in CrossFit have NO equal in practical application.
Bench presses and curls don't do anything for your ability to pack out an elk quarter up a rocky canyon...
Heavy squats and Olympic snatches on the other hand, do. Work your body from head to toe. In a compound movement.. that's what you need for what we do.
I joined a local CrossFit gym around a year ago. It has changed my life as well as my wife's.
I was in OK shape, I wouldn't say I was obese, but definitely over weight for my frame.
Now, I can out hike, out pack and out work anyone I hunt with. There is no comparison how much further and harder I can go than last year.
Energy, Strength, Stamina, Balance, and overall change in your body composition. That is what you will experience.
But, you must take one with the other. There is no "silver bullet" or easy way. You have to change your Life Style if you want to have a real, lasting effect.
Diet COMBINED with a regular, intense, exercise routine is the only way to become the "wilderness athlete" you are striving to be.
CrossFit is hard, its hard as hell actually. And it's not for everyone. But neither is chasing after Muley bucks up a snowy canyon at 9000' :D But after you start to see results and experience how much better you feel, you wont go back. Young or old, you can CrossFit, I have some 70+ year old people that lift weights with me regularly. Its all about scalability, we can make any exercise "do-able" for anyone, regardless of skill level. There's a great community and brotherhood you will find when you CrossFit, your suffering binds you together and pushes you further than you thought possible. This suffering and finding your limits lends itself directly into our "High Mountain Hunting" lifestyle. It physically prepares you for anything you may come across in the great wide open. But more than that, having the confidence in your physical conditioning translates itself into mental toughness which is the real key to going further, harder, longer, and hopefully coming out heavier.

Got any questions about CrossFit or Paleo eating? message or email me, id be happy to help out!
 

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In hindsight, I don't mean to sound like CrossFit ie: (Olympic Lifting)(plyometric exercise) etc..Is the ONLY way to get in mountain shape. I guess what I'm getting at is that this particular form of fitness seems to be tailor made for hunters and people who plan on compound movements over extended periods. Ask yourself...who are some of the strongest people you know or have known? I'd bet its a kid who grew up on a farm. That or someone who has beena laborer engaged in heavy, awkward, compound movements. These are the areas in which tough country hunters need to emphasize..(the need for BIG lungs.. Muscular endurance especially legs.. A Rock Solid core to support a pack frame day after day on the mountain) I'm simply saying the combination of CrossFit and Eating well, (Paleo working well for me) is a great way to get the results that we look for and give you that edge on the mountain. I say this with so much passion because I am so impressed with the changes I have seen in myself and love to share it with people, knowing what potential they can find inside themselves!
 

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There is no right or wrong routine to get yourself in mountain shape. The key is to find what works for you, is a routine you can fit into your schedule, dedication to what you are trying to achieve and some form of caloric burn/measurement system so that in the end you are burning more than you consume, increasing your aerobic capacity, endurance and building muscle in the appropriate areas. 9 months until seasons start again, plenty of time to experiment on what works for you.
 

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For those of you who have used the Paleolithic diet successfully - can you direct me to some good resources to research whether its something I want to try. I am looking for web sites or books that are directed at people who are athletic and want to be in great condition, not just weight less. I have used google but you get a jumble of info back focused on non- athletic types. I don't want the history of the diet just the how to do it for athletes. T
 

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For those of you who have used the Paleolithic diet successfully - can you direct me to some good resources to research whether its something I want to try. I am looking for web sites or books that are directed at people who are athletic and want to be in great condition, not just weight less. I have used google but you get a jumble of info back focused on non- athletic types. I don't want the history of the diet just the how to do it for athletes. T

Mark Sisson at Mark's Daily Apple for books and blog posts on a wide variety of subjects. His book Primal Blueprint is a good foundation. All of his views come from an endurance athlete so as a couch potato I had some concern. Even though I will never attempt to compete in an Iron Man event like him, his scientific breakdown of various "conventional wisdom" issues work well for me.

Rob Wolf has his own website and great co authored book The Paleo Solution. His pod casts can get deep into the woods on nutrition.

Both of these guys focus on fat loss with the gain of health and both require that physical fitness be part of the solution to fat loss and great health. There will be many things in their books that you will not be interested in due to the broad sweep of the book marketing. Still, they will help you understand what you need and provide the information you need.

These two men are the foundation of paleo in athletic nutrition today.

There is a good book for the low carb non paleo athletes. The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance. Two doctors that rewrote the Atkins diet discovered that they left themselves and their endurance athlete friends out of the Atkins system. Its a great book full of science stuff and examples of crazy athletes that do not fuel with carbs.

For pure website stuff Dr Peter Attia at the Eating Academy has great keto adapted information. It helps that he has turned himself into a walking science experiment to show just what a keto adapted athlete can achieve.

There are two low fat concepts out there in athletics. One is paleo and the other is keto adapted. Both are low carb and high fat, but paleo goes for a difference in food sources and reduction in chronic cardio by sticking to lifting heavy and a few sprints - walk more.

Keto adapted wants you to consume as few carbs as possible - below 50 grams a day or less depending on need. The types of movement is not important, so its much less lifestyle oriented.

The cool thing about paleo is that it works for a human body. Does not matter if that human lives under a couch or carries a couch up 10 flights of stairs for fun. The principles remain the same.
 

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Mark Sisson at Mark's Daily Apple for books and blog posts on a wide variety of subjects. His book Primal Blueprint is a good foundation. All of his views come from an endurance athlete so as a couch potato I had some concern. Even though I will never attempt to compete in an Iron Man event like him, his scientific breakdown of various "conventional wisdom" issues work well for me.

Rob Wolf has his own website and great co authored book The Paleo Solution. His pod casts can get deep into the woods on nutrition.

Both of these guys focus on fat loss with the gain of health and both require that physical fitness be part of the solution to fat loss and great health. There will be many things in their books that you will not be interested in due to the broad sweep of the book marketing. Still, they will help you understand what you need and provide the information you need.

These two men are the foundation of paleo in athletic nutrition today.

There is a good book for the low carb non paleo athletes. The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance. Two doctors that rewrote the Atkins diet discovered that they left themselves and their endurance athlete friends out of the Atkins system. Its a great book full of science stuff and examples of crazy athletes that do not fuel with carbs.

For pure website stuff Dr Peter Attia at the Eating Academy has great keto adapted information. It helps that he has turned himself into a walking science experiment to show just what a keto adapted athlete can achieve.

There are two low fat concepts out there in athletics. One is paleo and the other is keto adapted. Both are low carb and high fat, but paleo goes for a difference in food sources and reduction in chronic cardio by sticking to lifting heavy and a few sprints - walk more.

Keto adapted wants you to consume as few carbs as possible - below 50 grams a day or less depending on need. The types of movement is not important, so its much less lifestyle oriented.

The cool thing about paleo is that it works for a human body. Does not matter if that human lives under a couch or carries a couch up 10 flights of stairs for fun. The principles remain the same.

The beauty of a paleo centric diet lies in its simplicity. There is no counting calories in / out its all about eating what you should. Basically enough to support exercise and nothing more. You listen to your body and eat when hungry, as long as your eating the right foods quantity isn't the issue. Ray hits the nail on the head here. I couldn't have said it better...Marks is a great resource. My wife has some great paleo cookbooks that we follow that has really made things easier. Just try not to get overwhelmed, its a lot at first and takes time to adjust your lifestyle. Planning out your meals and being prepared ahead of time can be challenging. You have to also realize your not going to have a perfect diet, good days and bad. Its all about the long haul. Its also nice because as hunters we tend to have an abundance of meat available :D

Good Article More of an overview : http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/200...-the-paleo-kitchen-and-a-crossfit-instructor/

Good Article : http://www.paleoplan.com/2011/08-22/crossfit-and-paleo-an-experts-view/

Cook Books We Use:
Paleo Comfort Foods - Julie and Charles Mayfield

Against All Grain - Danielle Walker

Make-Ahead Paleo - Tammy Credicott
 

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I have lost 50 pounds since January this year and after success in the elk woods(the main reason for my weight lose to begin with) I decided to reward myself. It's 2 months later and I can't get started again. I know what I need to do I just can't get back in my routine. This Monday is time to start over again and get back in the routine, this time my wife is going to do it with me and I don't know if that's good or bad as I'm more of a solo mission kind of guy. Love reading about all if the others struggling along with me lol.
 

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I have lost 50 pounds since January this year and after success in the elk woods(the main reason for my weight lose to begin with) I decided to reward myself. It's 2 months later and I can't get started again. I know what I need to do I just can't get back in my routine. This Monday is time to start over again and get back in the routine, this time my wife is going to do it with me and I don't know if that's good or bad as I'm more of a solo mission kind of guy. Love reading about all if the others struggling along with me lol.

For me having my wife going along with me has been a huge help. Having someone to motivate you on your down days is a huge help and vise versa. We also belong to the same CrossFit gym so we can have a common ground when talking about our goals and experiences in the gym. totally recommend it!!
 
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Another great place for recipes is pinterest I started the Paleo and cross fit gig(TRAINTOHUNT.com) while deployed this past spring summer. I have lost 50+ pounds, the wife and I have found some great recipes on pinterst.
 

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Another good book is Everyday Paleo. Get the first book. It covers the basics, food, cooking, and fitness. The second book is pure cooking.
 
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when you guys talk about your dieting plans, are you eating less. Or just watching the carbs or calories that you are eating.I'am six foot about 195lbs and would like to get rid of the belly. I know I don't excerise like I should. Just wondering on some suggestions on how to work it off. Also good for you aron keep up the hard work .
 

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Thanks for all the information. Been reading a lot today. I eat low carb when getting in shape so this diet should be easier to adapt too. I really like the not counting calories or carb protein ratios. Just eat the foods the Paleo diet recommends when your body needs it and of you go. We eat moose, elk or deer with a lot of the veggies they recommend every supper already, so making extra for next days lunch should be easy.
 
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Thanks for all the information. Been reading a lot today. I eat low carb when getting in shape so this diet should be easier to adapt too. I really like the not counting calories or carb protein ratios. Just eat the foods the Paleo diet recommends when your body needs it and of you go. We eat moose, elk or deer with a lot of the veggies they recommend every supper already, so making extra for next days lunch should be easy.

We per cook for the week on Sunday. Usually elk/deer/goat loaf, stew, per cooked burger for salad. This helps get protein in every meal.

I use olive oil when cooking for the fat (its good fat), but we get the extra virgin stuff.
 

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Olive oil is awesome..we also buy a big tub of coconut oil and cook alot in that..good flavor without too much coconut taste. Usually at Costco.
 

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It's good to read posts like these. I've been fit for most of my life (not a badass, just fit). I spent several months last year getting ready for my CO elk hunt. I'd do gym 3 times a week and run a couple of miles 3 times a week. Diet was good and I was in Elk shape when the hunt went down. I filled my tag and had an awesome time. That was 3 months ago....

I bet I've put on 10-15 pounds since then. It seems that my wife has been throwing a lot of parties for this and that and my work has had me entertaining clients and so forth and damn..the pounds have added up. I'm going after Wapiti again in '14 and I'm confident that I will be in the right kind of shape by then, but how the hell do you stay motivated the entire year? Last year I was in pretty good shape but really worked my ass off from Jan-late August and I was thinking that I'd do the same this year.
 
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It's good to read posts like these. I've been fit for most of my life (not a badass, just fit). I spent several months last year getting ready for my CO elk hunt. I'd do gym 3 times a week and run a couple of miles 3 times a week. Diet was good and I was in Elk shape when the hunt went down. I filled my tag and had an awesome time. That was 3 months ago....

I bet I've put on 10-15 pounds since then. It seems that my wife has been throwing a lot of parties for this and that and my work has had me entertaining clients and so forth and damn..the pounds have added up. I'm going after Wapiti again in '14 and I'm confident that I will be in the right kind of shape by then, but how the hell do you stay motivated the entire year? Last year I was in pretty good shape but really worked my ass off from Jan-late August and I was thinking that I'd do the same this year.
im in almost an identical boat
 
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