The Shoot2hunt Podcast

[Wyo_hntr]

You think he lives in Bozeman or Missoula?

 

[gabenzeke]

I know you don't want questions, so this is more of a suggestion regarding UM made Tikkas. Can you offer a switch lug type system like the WTO? Or if I have you build one, include that as an option? Being able to swap a barrel and bolt rather than buying two rifles would be sweet.

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[The Guide]

I know you don't want questions, so this is more of a suggestion regarding UM made Tikkas. Can you offer a switch lug type system like the WTO? Or if I have you build one, include that as an option? Being able to swap a barrel and bolt rather than buying two rifles would be sweet.

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I'm pretty sure if you have any Tikka T3 or T3X action, all you need is a prefit chambered barrel with a bolt in a matching boltface for the cartridge the barrel is chambered in and you can shoot anything from 223 to 338WM with the same rifle using a barrel vise and an action wrench. Adding anything else in-line adds tolerance stacking and increases chances of diminishing accuracy.

Jay

 

[Reburn]

Adding anything else in-line adds tolerance stacking and increases chances of diminishing accuracy.

In practice this statement doesnt hold up.
So says my personal 2 switch lugs and 9 barrels and another half dozen I know of personally.

 

[Lawnboi]

I know you don't want questions, so this is more of a suggestion regarding UM made Tikkas. Can you offer a switch lug type system like the WTO? Or if I have you build one, include that as an option? Being able to swap a barrel and bolt rather than buying two rifles would be sweet.

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They torque their barrels to 100ft lbs. I don’t see them making anything that is held by hand tight and a set screw.

Once your original barrel is off it takes minimal tools to swap barrels.

 

[Mtnmilsurp]

In the Aaron Davidson episode Aaron says that people with adjustable cheek rests are usually doing something wrong with their shooting technique/form/position but he didn’t explain the error other than indexing on the cheek rest for alignment. Is he just concerned about too much cheek pressure? What is proper indexing?

Can anyone elaborate and explain what right looks like with respect to technique that he was alluding to?

 

[Juan_ID]

MDS Episode #0112 - Caylen Unplugged #1

Podcast Episode · Modern Day Sniper Podcast · 11/29/2024 · 1h 3m

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This guys may have things figured out in regards to the drop test validity in his talks with some industry experts. Anyone care to spend 20 minutes of their time to give this a listen then give your thoughts? Skip ahead to 38 minutes and listen to about minute 55. @Ryan Avery @Formidilosus what do you guys say? Get him on the podcast then let’s get this “significant wager” on video??

-If this is the wrong place for this I’ll gladly move it.

 

[flyfisher117]

MDS Episode #0112 - Caylen Unplugged #1

Podcast Episode · Modern Day Sniper Podcast · 11/29/2024 · 1h 3m

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This guys may have things figured out in regards to the drop test validity in his talks with some industry experts. Anyone care to spend 20 minutes of their time to give this a listen then give your thoughts? Skip ahead to 38 minutes and listen to about minute 55. @Ryan Avery @Formidilosus what do you guys say? Get him on the podcast then let’s get this “significant wager” on video??

-If this is the wrong place for this I’ll gladly move it.

Skip to 45-46 minutes. 38-46 isn't relevant to the drop test discussion.

 

[Ryan Avery]

I DMed him on IG and asked if he would come to see the drop test in person.

People cherry-pick the info. They always miss the drive-around test. I guess I have to check zero every damn day?

 

[Runwilderness]

I DMed him on IG and asked if he would come to see the drop test in person.

People cherry-pick the info. They always miss the drive-around test. I guess I have to re-zero every damn day?

Sounds like he wants to go shooting with you.

I know my fundamentals suck, but that dialogue didn’t address anything brought up on this site on why zero may shift other than agreeing that “most scopes aren’t designed to withstand a side impact.”

 

[ID_Matt]

Skip to 45-46 minutes. 38-46 isn't relevant to the drop test discussion.

I think it is because it talks about AI and how they dropped and kicked them around and that was cool but dropping scopes isn’t

I guess I have to check zero every damn day?

Just shoot a rock i guess

 

[Spoonbill]

MDS Episode #0112 - Caylen Unplugged #1

Podcast Episode · Modern Day Sniper Podcast · 11/29/2024 · 1h 3m

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This guys may have things figured out in regards to the drop test validity in his talks with some industry experts. Anyone care to spend 20 minutes of their time to give this a listen then give your thoughts? Skip ahead to 38 minutes and listen to about minute 55. @Ryan Avery @Formidilosus what do you guys say? Get him on the podcast then let’s get this “significant wager” on video??

-If this is the wrong place for this I’ll gladly move it.

Hard to take that guy seriously when he says he has seen scopes fail and the later says scopes don’t lose zero it is due to poor fundamentals of the shooter.

 

[T_Widdy]

I DMed him on IG and asked if he would come to see the drop test in person.

People cherry-pick the info. They always miss the drive-around test. I guess I have to check zero every damn day?

I hope he comes and finds out the truth, invite his leupold optics buddy too!

 

[The Guide]

MDS Episode #0112 - Caylen Unplugged #1

Podcast Episode · Modern Day Sniper Podcast · 11/29/2024 · 1h 3m

podcasts.apple.com

This guys may have things figured out in regards to the drop test validity in his talks with some industry experts. Anyone care to spend 20 minutes of their time to give this a listen then give your thoughts? Skip ahead to 38 minutes and listen to about minute 55. @Ryan Avery @Formidilosus what do you guys say? Get him on the podcast then let’s get this “significant wager” on video??

-If this is the wrong place for this I’ll gladly move it.

This guy lost all credibility with me when he said that you only miss because you don't how to shoot your firearm. Scopes go bad. Stocks have issues. Wondering zeros are a real thing.

Jay

 

[Juan_ID]

I DMed him on IG and asked if he would come to see the drop test in person.

People cherry-pick the info. They always miss the drive-around test. I guess I have to check zero every damn day?

Well there’s no reason not to, shooting suppressed doesn’t scare animals

 

[Runwilderness]

Well there’s no reason not to, shooting suppressed doesn’t scare animals

How does one re-zero off of a rock after you find out your off?

I don’t own a drop certified scope, so I know I’m at risk in the field (probably should have bought a SWFA gen 2 but opted to put my $ into binos…not always logical here), but it seems like a product that needs to be recalibrated as part of normal operation needs to be made extremely easy to recalibrate and field shooting to find zero seems the opposite to me.

 

[Castle Rock]

MDS Episode #0112 - Caylen Unplugged #1

Podcast Episode · Modern Day Sniper Podcast · 11/29/2024 · 1h 3m

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This guys may have things figured out in regards to the drop test validity in his talks with some industry experts. Anyone care to spend 20 minutes of their time to give this a listen then give your thoughts? Skip ahead to 38 minutes and listen to about minute 55. @Ryan Avery @Formidilosus what do you guys say? Get him on the podcast then let’s get this “significant wager” on video??

-If this is the wrong place for this I’ll gladly move it.

I had a listen while working so must have missed something, what was the point?

 

[Wyo_hntr]

I had a listen while working so must have missed something, what was the point?

There are too many variables in play to make the drop evaluation valid, and scopes are not manufactured to with stand side impacts. I think was his point.

This is a fantastic opportunity to have a third party participate in an evaluation. Perhaps his gun-writer industry expert could join as a fourth party. Bring scopes and ammo and see what happens. More data the better.

 

[NevadaMike]

There are too many variables in play to make the drop evaluation valid, and scopes are not manufactured to with stand side impacts. I think was his point.

This is a fantastic opportunity to have a third party participate in an evaluation. Perhaps his gun-writer industry expert could join as a fourth party. Bring scopes and ammo and see what happens. More data the better.

Wouldn't it put this MDS guy in his place if we eliminate the variables? If UM, SRS or someone would machine a jig that replicated an average rifle and took variables out like action screws and the scope mounts he mentioned, validity would become more indisputable. Obviously there would be scope mounts but something bomber and an integral part of the jig. Next, we could take the drops to a more consistent level by adding a platform that duplicates the drop consistently every time. The same would apply to riding around in the same vehicle at the same temperature or whatever makes it consistent. Finally, the scope tracking and zero retention would be measured on a collimator while still in the jig taking the shooter and ammunition out of the equation such as the Nightforce version seen here. What would their argument be then?

 

[Grizzle]

His friend is clearly papwinkle by the description. Colton obviously has an issue with rokslide even though he wouldn't take much of a stance on the podcast, ever since he was on he's been making pokes on his Instagram. Leupolds hold zero, hammers rule, and no one that's not getting paid for their opinion should be listened to according to pap