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Harvey_NW

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Wouldn't it put this MDS guy in his place if we eliminate the variables? If UM, SRS or someone would machine a jig that replicated an average rifle and took variables out like action screws and the scope mounts he mentioned, validity would become more indisputable. Obviously there would be scope mounts but something bomber and an integral part of the jig. Next, we could take the drops to a more consistent level by adding a platform that duplicates the drop consistently every time. The same would apply to riding around in the same vehicle at the same temperature or whatever makes it consistent. Finally, the scope tracking and zero retention would be measured on a collimator while still in the jig taking the shooter and ammunition out of the equation such as the Nightforce version seen here. What would their argument be then?
IMHO, some engineered jig takes the validity out of it. The way the drop test is structured is literally perfect, and obviously repeatable.
 

Bluumoon

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Wouldn't it put this MDS guy in his place if we eliminate the variables? If UM, SRS or someone would machine a jig that replicated an average rifle and took variables out like action screws and the scope mounts he mentioned, validity would become more indisputable. Obviously there would be scope mounts but something bomber and an integral part of the jig. Next, we could take the drops to a more consistent level by adding a platform that duplicates the drop consistently every time. The same would apply to riding around in the same vehicle at the same temperature or whatever makes it consistent. Finally, the scope tracking and zero retention would be measured on a collimator while still in the jig taking the shooter and ammunition out of the equation such as the Nightforce version seen here. What would their argument be then?
We have videos of guys dropping the Maven’s on packed gravel from chest level and them holding zero. Watched a guy (not familiar w drop test), get handed a new to him UM Tikka build toss the damn thing from shoulder height bc someone told him it’d still work, it did. I see what you are saying, but it’s arguing w people who won’t take the time to try things. People want to believe their stuff is the best/toughest/most accurate, just don’t test it.
 

LONE HUNTER

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I DMed him on IG and asked if he would come to see the drop test in person.

People cherry-pick the info. They always miss the drive-around test. I guess I have to check zero every damn day?
It surprises me how controversial it is to say "I use to have issues with my rifles losing zero using scope brand X, but now that i use scope Y my rifles don't lose zero anymore". I mean people losing money over the drop test probably don't like it I suppose....
 
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