The Rokslide 95 (Ruger American š)
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I havenāt bought a Gen2 with AICS.
All my Gen 2ās have been AR15 mags.
I will say, it shouldnāt be a Gen 1 thing.
It makes putting the pin in release lever easy.
Should be standard equipment for an AICS magwell equipped rifle.
BigEd36
FNG
This may explain why. The rifles I bought are both chambered in 6mm ARC and come with AR style magazines.
Timplant
WKR
Got a free Gen 2 .243 from work this winter, and finally got around to stripping it and torquing and painting it while mounting a SHV.
90gr eld-x looks promising! Had loads should be better. Oh also changed the trigger and it changed the feel of the gun!
Should be a perfect truck/boat/four wheeler gun and deer rifle for the wife.
90gr eld-x looks promising! Had loads should be better. Oh also changed the trigger and it changed the feel of the gun!
Should be a perfect truck/boat/four wheeler gun and deer rifle for the wife.
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Some thoughts on the el cheapo Rugerā¦.
Iāve had a few of them over a period of about 10 years. Jury is still out.
The first one was a 308 compact. Great little gun shot ok. Killed some deer, mt goat, and fox. Rotary mag was a great idea but poorly executed. Only real trouble I had it. Sold for a m77 compact for the wife.
Next I got a 6.5 Grendel as I had stumbled into 2000 rds of ammo to burn up. CZ were not available, tried a howa but wasnāt in love with it. So bought a $500 rifle to shoot up $3000 worth of free ammo. Still have the rifle, shoot it more than anything else cause itās easy and cheap. Have killed deer, ptarmigan, mt goat, caribou, elk, beaver.
Then picked up a 223 to burn up cheap ammo and a 6.5 creedmoor to play at distance a bit. A Black Friday KRG Bravo and still under $800 all up for a rifle is pretty good.
What I like:
They are accurate. Every one I have had will keep 10 rounds under 2 MOA of almost anything and around 1 MOA with decent ammo.
The stock dimensions. They are slim and trim and most importantly round on the bottom. I donāt know why but most rifles are square in the bottom. I suppose it sits well on a fence post but sure doesnāt carry well in hand. I carry a rifle in hand more than slung or strapped to a pack so this is a big deal to me. I grew up with 99 Savages, M94 and 86 Winchesters. These old guns carry well in hand and are quick into action. The American is the best modern rifle in this regard. Additionally the bedding system is genius. Twin v blocks are easy to take apart and put back. They go right back to zero. Thereās nothing to lose or not get in place. Bedding is unnecessary.
The trigger is generally good if you remove the stupid blade and clip a coil or two off the spring. Only one out of 4 has been spongy after this treatment. Timney makes a great replacement and is easy to replace.
Scope rings are easy. Talley lightweights fit low and tight if you like them. If not the factory rail is pretty simple and bulletproof as long as you take them off, clean the oil out and epoxy weld them on.
The tang safety. Itās a small thing and not that important but it is the best place to have a safety.
The bolt handle is a solid piece of steel and although not integral with the bolt it may as well be the simple and strong way it attaches.
Magazines. AR magazines are cheap, everywhere, and work well. Same with AI mags to a lesser extent.
They come in lots of calibers and barrel lengths. All threaded in common thread dimensions. This isnāt a small thing. Try finding a 16ā 6.5 Grendel (cause youāve got lots of cheap ammo) threaded 5/8-24 Tikka or Browning or Winchesterā¦..
What I donāt like and how Iāve suffered it:
Feeding can be a problem. Ruger rotary mags unfortunately suck. They shouldnāt. Ruger makes perhaps the worlds most perfect mag in the 10/22. The action interface with AR mags and AI mags sucks too. They are hit and miss but Iāve had decent luck by paying attention to detail and tweaking mag fitment.
For the most part the bolt is smooth. The zipper feel/sound - whatever. However I have had trouble when cold. Lube is the nemesis in the cold but some rugers are sticky without lube. I have very limited experience with Tikkas but have seen the same thing. Probably a neglect thing but it is what it is.
The AI mag gen 1ās are a PITA to remove/reinstall from the stock with having to pull the mag catch to do it. Total BS design flaw.
The stock. Itās cheap. Itās hollow and cheeky. Itās floppy. Itās too thin and laid back in the grip. The grip and flop are easy enough to fix with epoxy and elbow grease. Can fill with spray foam to partially fix hollow sound. Have to live with the cheap and cheeky or replace. I mean itās not a Sako
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Iāve had a few of them over a period of about 10 years. Jury is still out.
The first one was a 308 compact. Great little gun shot ok. Killed some deer, mt goat, and fox. Rotary mag was a great idea but poorly executed. Only real trouble I had it. Sold for a m77 compact for the wife.
Next I got a 6.5 Grendel as I had stumbled into 2000 rds of ammo to burn up. CZ were not available, tried a howa but wasnāt in love with it. So bought a $500 rifle to shoot up $3000 worth of free ammo. Still have the rifle, shoot it more than anything else cause itās easy and cheap. Have killed deer, ptarmigan, mt goat, caribou, elk, beaver.
Then picked up a 223 to burn up cheap ammo and a 6.5 creedmoor to play at distance a bit. A Black Friday KRG Bravo and still under $800 all up for a rifle is pretty good.
What I like:
They are accurate. Every one I have had will keep 10 rounds under 2 MOA of almost anything and around 1 MOA with decent ammo.
The stock dimensions. They are slim and trim and most importantly round on the bottom. I donāt know why but most rifles are square in the bottom. I suppose it sits well on a fence post but sure doesnāt carry well in hand. I carry a rifle in hand more than slung or strapped to a pack so this is a big deal to me. I grew up with 99 Savages, M94 and 86 Winchesters. These old guns carry well in hand and are quick into action. The American is the best modern rifle in this regard. Additionally the bedding system is genius. Twin v blocks are easy to take apart and put back. They go right back to zero. Thereās nothing to lose or not get in place. Bedding is unnecessary.
The trigger is generally good if you remove the stupid blade and clip a coil or two off the spring. Only one out of 4 has been spongy after this treatment. Timney makes a great replacement and is easy to replace.
Scope rings are easy. Talley lightweights fit low and tight if you like them. If not the factory rail is pretty simple and bulletproof as long as you take them off, clean the oil out and epoxy weld them on.
The tang safety. Itās a small thing and not that important but it is the best place to have a safety.
The bolt handle is a solid piece of steel and although not integral with the bolt it may as well be the simple and strong way it attaches.
Magazines. AR magazines are cheap, everywhere, and work well. Same with AI mags to a lesser extent.
They come in lots of calibers and barrel lengths. All threaded in common thread dimensions. This isnāt a small thing. Try finding a 16ā 6.5 Grendel (cause youāve got lots of cheap ammo) threaded 5/8-24 Tikka or Browning or Winchesterā¦..
What I donāt like and how Iāve suffered it:
Feeding can be a problem. Ruger rotary mags unfortunately suck. They shouldnāt. Ruger makes perhaps the worlds most perfect mag in the 10/22. The action interface with AR mags and AI mags sucks too. They are hit and miss but Iāve had decent luck by paying attention to detail and tweaking mag fitment.
For the most part the bolt is smooth. The zipper feel/sound - whatever. However I have had trouble when cold. Lube is the nemesis in the cold but some rugers are sticky without lube. I have very limited experience with Tikkas but have seen the same thing. Probably a neglect thing but it is what it is.
The AI mag gen 1ās are a PITA to remove/reinstall from the stock with having to pull the mag catch to do it. Total BS design flaw.
The stock. Itās cheap. Itās hollow and cheeky. Itās floppy. Itās too thin and laid back in the grip. The grip and flop are easy enough to fix with epoxy and elbow grease. Can fill with spray foam to partially fix hollow sound. Have to live with the cheap and cheeky or replace. I mean itās not a Sako
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Very well said and excellent write up! I think this sums it up perfectly!Some thoughts on the el cheapo Rugerā¦.
Iāve had a few of them over a period of about 10 years. Jury is still out.
The first one was a 308 compact. Great little gun shot ok. Killed some deer, mt goat, and fox. Rotary mag was a great idea but poorly executed. Only real trouble I had it. Sold for a m77 compact for the wife.
Next I got a 6.5 Grendel as I had stumbled into 2000 rds of ammo to burn up. CZ were not available, tried a howa but wasnāt in love with it. So bought a $500 rifle to shoot up $3000 worth of free ammo. Still have the rifle, shoot it more than anything else cause itās easy and cheap. Have killed deer, ptarmigan, mt goat, caribou, elk, beaver.
Then picked up a 223 to burn up cheap ammo and a 6.5 creedmoor to play at distance a bit. A Black Friday KRG Bravo and still under $800 all up for a rifle is pretty good.
What I like:
They are accurate. Every one I have had will keep 10 rounds under 2 MOA of almost anything and around 1 MOA with decent ammo.
The stock dimensions. They are slim and trim and most importantly round on the bottom. I donāt know why but most rifles are square in the bottom. I suppose it sits well on a fence post but sure doesnāt carry well in hand. I carry a rifle in hand more than slung or strapped to a pack so this is a big deal to me. I grew up with 99 Savages, M94 and 86 Winchesters. These old guns carry well in hand and are quick into action. The American is the best modern rifle in this regard. Additionally the bedding system is genius. Twin v blocks are easy to take apart and put back. They go right back to zero. Thereās nothing to lose or not get in place. Bedding is unnecessary.
The trigger is generally good if you remove the stupid blade and clip a coil or two off the spring. Only one out of 4 has been spongy after this treatment. Timney makes a great replacement and is easy to replace.
Scope rings are easy. Talley lightweights fit low and tight if you like them. If not the factory rail is pretty simple and bulletproof as long as you take them off, clean the oil out and epoxy weld them on.
The tang safety. Itās a small thing and not that important but it is the best place to have a safety.
The bolt handle is a solid piece of steel and although not integral with the bolt it may as well be the simple and strong way it attaches.
Magazines. AR magazines are cheap, everywhere, and work well. Same with AI mags to a lesser extent.
They come in lots of calibers and barrel lengths. All threaded in common thread dimensions. This isnāt a small thing. Try finding a 16ā 6.5 Grendel (cause youāve got lots of cheap ammo) threaded 5/8-24 Tikka or Browning or Winchesterā¦..
What I donāt like and how Iāve suffered it:
Feeding can be a problem. Ruger rotary mags unfortunately suck. They shouldnāt. Ruger makes perhaps the worlds most perfect mag in the 10/22. The action interface with AR mags and AI mags sucks too. They are hit and miss but Iāve had decent luck by paying attention to detail and tweaking mag fitment.
For the most part the bolt is smooth. The zipper feel/sound - whatever. However I have had trouble when cold. Lube is the nemesis in the cold but some rugers are sticky without lube. I have very limited experience with Tikkas but have seen the same thing. Probably a neglect thing but it is what it is.
The AI mag gen 1ās are a PITA to remove/reinstall from the stock with having to pull the mag catch to do it. Total BS design flaw.
The stock. Itās cheap. Itās hollow and cheeky. Itās floppy. Itās too thin and laid back in the grip. The grip and flop are easy enough to fix with epoxy and elbow grease. Can fill with spray foam to partially fix hollow sound. Have to live with the cheap and cheeky or replace. I mean itās not a Sako
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