Kimber7man
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Almost every single friggin one of us breaks the law every day while driving.…
Almost every single friggin one of us breaks the law every day while driving.…
Not me, I have never ever done anything wrong, just ask my wife.Almost every single friggin one of us breaks the law every day while driving.…
And the % of those drivers that "need" to break traffic laws to ensure their survival is about the same as the % that "need" to harvest game outside the regulations....do what you can afford, and don't be shocked when the law comes a knockin'Almost every single friggin one of us breaks the law every day while driving.…
Exactly. One day it's no turn signal, the next day you're robbing a liquor store. Driving, the gateway to crime.Almost every single friggin one of us breaks the law every day while driving.…
Whoa dude.
In regards to the spirit of the conversation, I was making the statement that there is a difference in morally wrong and legally wrong.
I don’t think my statement makes me a “huge part of the problem”
Sure, it is the legal definition of poaching, I think that the OP argument is how egregious the offense is.
I am fortunate and not in the position of having to take game out of season to provide. I would not mind doing so if my family was hungry though.
Looting is for personal gain, most likely the looted goods are sold on e-bay, shooting a deer out of hunger is a totally different ball game, I don't see much deer meat being sold on e-bay.
If Buffalo0922 pulls that shit around here he'll be recorded and turned into Idaho Fish and Game. Nothing about his original posting is okay in any way, but rather blatantly justifies breaking the law simply because a it's a non-antlered 'doe' --therefore alright to kill out of season or without a legal tag.I agree with @Broomd
The post you made contrasted the shooting of a buck from a road and just cutting off it's antlers with illegally shooting a doe in an isolated private area and eating it.
Maybe the way you worded it didn't match the intention but I read it to read that as long as you dont shoot in a precarious manner like from the road, aren't motivated by antlers, and eat the meat, it's not poaching.
I agree with @Broomd
The post you made contrasted the shooting of a buck from a road and just cutting off it's antlers with illegally shooting a doe in an isolated private area and eating it.
Maybe the way you worded it didn't match the intention but I read it to read that as long as you dont shoot in a precarious manner like from the road, aren't motivated by antlers, and eat the meat, it's not poaching.
Guys,If Buffalo0922 pulls that shit around here he'll be recorded and turned into Idaho Fish and Game. Nothing about his original posting is okay in any way, but rather blatantly justifies breaking the law simply because a it's a non-antlered 'doe' --therefore alright to kill out of season or without a legal tag.
That exact kind of thinking is what really (and literally) kills the resource around here. Our brood stock is poached off and never tagged. Every doe killed is one less future buck or breeder doe.
Really saddened to read of that kind of thinking here at the 'slide. I probably shouldn't be surprised but I am.
Guys,
The OP was regarding the morality of poaching. I was stating, and still am, that I think the two examples are vastly different.
I think it is worse to kill an animal (for sport or antlers), than it is to kill an animal to provide meat.
Nothing about that means I don’t buy tags or follow hunting laws.
Taking a doe to eat, in an isolated area, most likely on private land…that’s not really poaching IMHO.
If you ever wonder how dudes get shot during hunting season...here's your guy!I am reluctant to even bring this up but ---. I have always looked at poaching as an activity done purposely outside of the normal season restraints. How about those situations where things just happen?
You spot a herd of elk walking through a dense jungle. A bull following 5 cows. The exposure is very brief so you can observe or shoot. You watch them through 4 openings and then you find a hole for a shot and wait. You count the elk passing through and you shoot the sixth one. When you get there it's a cow.
The choices are 1) leave it, 2) ride out 5 miles to find a warden and turn yourself in, 3) or pack it out and eat your mistake. Oh -- I forgot the more common option -- high grade it for the best cuts and leave the rest. ( Personally I find the later almost as disgusting as choice 1. ) I have to admit over 50 years I have eaten a couple of my mistakes. Legal? No. Ethical? A question. Poaching? Not in my world.
Sometimes life isn't as simple as it seems.
Fair enough statement.I'm not accusing you of not buying tags or following laws but this is what you said:
How is that not poaching? I'll agree that shooting a buck from the road and taking his antlers is more egregious but eating the meat and "most likely being on private land" are pretty poor qualifiers to make something "not poaching".
no one else is really concerned either. the boyscouts just need something to argue about to keep them entertained lolYou can call it whatever you like, if it came down to it I would kill something to feed myself, It is extremely unlikely to have that happen so I am not concerned.
Doesn’t matter. It’s a law. Laws are perfect and life has no nuance.What if instead of deer it's rabbits?