The 2014 Kifaru EMR II

[Arbutusbucks]

looks too low to me. almost looks like the rear of the waistbelt is sagging. shouldnt do that unless you have over 100 in it

Thanks fillthefreezer, I think you are right. I'm still learning how to wear it and adjust it. I think I had the belt too low on my hips, I just put it on again and tightened it up higher. Belt strap almost on my naval and took a look in the mirror. It looked much better and more importantly felt much better. The load lifters also seemed more effective. Glad i took the pictures. I appreciate the critique.

 

[Brandon Pattison]

looks too low to me. almost looks like the rear of the waistbelt is sagging. shouldnt do that unless you have over 100 in it

I figured he was like me, assless.

 

[Arbutusbucks]

I figured he was like me, assless.

Nah man, I have some junk in the trunk haha.

 

[Tiger Rag]

Just for reference im about 5'10" 180. But like I said long torso/shorter legs.

I'm built similar except I'm 6'3". 22.5" torso is Aron's estimate although whenever I measure, I get like 24".

My waistbelts always seem to sag a little like that as well. I don't think I've got enough butt to hold it up like I'd like. It'll be interesting to see how the Kifaru rides on me. Thanks for posting pics!

 

[Shrek]

Thanks fillthefreezer, I think you are right. I'm still learning how to wear it and adjust it. I think I had the belt too low on my hips, I just put it on again and tightened it up higher. Belt strap almost on my naval and took a look in the mirror. It looked much better and more importantly felt much better. The load lifters also seemed more effective. Glad i took the pictures. I appreciate the critique.

My buckle sits over my navel for sure . One thing that got me messed up a few times was forgetting to make sure the delta straps were slack when I snugged the belt tight. Those are the load stabilizers that go from the belt to the pack.

 

[Tiger Rag]

Thanks fillthefreezer, I think you are right. I'm still learning how to wear it and adjust it. I think I had the belt too low on my hips, I just put it on again and tightened it up higher. Belt strap almost on my naval and took a look in the mirror. It looked much better and more importantly felt much better. The load lifters also seemed more effective. Glad i took the pictures. I appreciate the critique.

Anybody know if the delta straps help adjust how the waistbelt rides?

Waistbelts are generally a little small on me it seems with a 38" waist. Hopefully the custom sized (vs other mfgr's) belt of the Kifaru will help wrap my hips a little to keep it in place.

 

[Tiger Rag]

My buckle sits over my navel for sure . One thing that got me messed up a few times was forgetting to make sure the delta straps were slack when I snugged the belt tight. Those are the load stabilizers that go from the belt to the pack.

Just what I was wondering. You think that helps keep the belt in place?....ie. with the delta straps?

 

[Aron Snyder]

You guys can give me a call tomorrow and we can double check fitting.

I'm heading into the wilderness Tuesday evening/Wednesday morning, but good to go before that.

 

[Shrek]

The deltas only keep the load stabil and if too tight will keep the belt from grabbing you snugly. Loose to put the belt on and then just straighten the deltas , no pressure. If the bag wants to roll the deltas prevent it and thats all they do. Pull them tight and they can deform the belt and it doesn't work right. Most of the time I just leave them slack for sedate hiking on trails.

 

[Arbutusbucks]

Just what I was wondering. You think that helps keep the belt in place?....ie. with the delta straps?

Per Aron's video on duplex fit I keep them loose but I pull the slack out of them. I am no expert.

 

[Tiger Rag]

You guys can give me a call tomorrow and we can double check fitting.

I'm heading into the wilderness Tuesday evening/Wednesday morning, but good to go before that.

Thanks man, I won't have my pack until Thursday so I'll try you another day if I'm having trouble with it. I don't anticipate that, but you never know. I can always rewatch your video's. Who would I ask for at the plant late this week if I needed help? Kevin?

Or will you be back the following week? That would give me the weekend to mess with it and take some training hikes.

 

[Tiger Rag]

The deltas only keep the load stabil and if too tight will keep the belt from grabbing you snugly. Loose to put the belt on and then just straighten the deltas , no pressure. If the bag wants to roll the deltas prevent it and thats all they do. Pull them tight and they can deform the belt and it doesn't work right. Most of the time I just leave them slack for sedate hiking on trails.

Ok, makes complete sense since I know how load lifters can deform or lift the shoulder straps off your shoulder. I can picture this a similar fashion on the deltas. Obviously you want the tight belt fit around your waist. Thanks for the visual.

 

[fillthefreezer]

Anybody know if the delta straps help adjust how the waistbelt rides?

Waistbelts are generally a little small on me it seems with a 38" waist. Hopefully the custom sized (vs other mfgr's) belt of the Kifaru will help wrap my hips a little to keep it in place.

you should be fine, the belt is definitely the best thing about kifarus. im a 33/34 waist and use a small, sized up the belt should fit you great.

 

[MattB]

My buckle sits over my navel for sure . One thing that got me messed up a few times was forgetting to make sure the delta straps were slack when I snugged the belt tight. Those are the load stabilizers that go from the belt to the pack.

This is an important comment, as improper use of he delta straps seems to be a fairly common theme to new Kifaru users (myself included). IMO the delta straps should be the last thing adjusted and then only de-slacked, not tightened per se.

 

[Rizzy]

I like how the common loops on the bottom middle can be hooked to the common loops in the bottom back where the bottom of the bag is attached to the frame.


This shrinks the bottom of the bag to a nice size that holds my 0 deg slick bag in an uncompressed medium 5 string stuff sack nicely.

 

[fillthefreezer]

i did something similar, i took the forward most loops and pulled them all the way back to the frame with a couple slick clips for hunting out of just the wing pockets. i can get a pic tonight.

 

[Rizzy]

I'd like to see those pics, I'm not sure what slick clips are but that configuration would make the bottom even more sleek.

 

[fillthefreezer]

https://www.google.com/search?q=sli...2Fwww.zimmerbuilt.com%2Fhardware.html;800;800

 

[Rizzy]

Those look handy, thanx for the link

 

[luke moffat]

No pics, just a basic way in how one might want to distribute the weight while loading their Kifaru EMR II pack:
[video=vimeo;94075665]https://vimeo.com/94075665[/video]
https://vimeo.com/94075665

*This was for a packraft float trip...no hunting was involved and only 3.5 miles in and 2.5 miles out after 38 miles of floating over 4.5 days.