Texas school shooting

[KHNC]

100% correct. Excellent post.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

For example:

Thurston High School.
Columbine High School.
Heritage High School.
Deming Middle School.
Fort Gibson Middle School.
Buell Elementary School.
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University of Arkansas.
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Martin Luther King, Jr. High School.
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Conception Abbey.
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Robb Elementary School

Nice copy and paste. I will be here waiting to read your excellent suggestion for stopping School violence.

 

[bsnedeker]

The teachers will just be the first ones to die.

Training only goes far when you're getting shot at.

Ahh, the traditional coward's argument: You'll probably die if you try to defend your life, so therefore you should give up before the fight even starts.

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[robby denning]

The teachers will just be the first ones to die.

Training only goes far when you're getting shot at.

maybe, but it could change the fact that schools are thought of as gun-free zones by the murderers looking for a soft target.

 

[MTN BUM]

The teachers will just be the first ones to die.

Training only goes far when you're getting shot at.

What a bunch of defeatist crap. By your logic we should quit trying any solution because there is a chance it wont work.

For someone who sings the libertarian tune so much Buzz you sure seem to have strong "ideas" about how other people should be allowed to protect themselves and their family.

The correct answer is not simple. There is no "one solution" that we as humans are going to generate. What we have to decide is are we going to trade a measure of freedom for a "guarantee". I think we (as a country) are, indeed. I personally dont think it is the right answer.

There is only one solution to the problems in this world, and Jesus has already told us how this ends. So pray. Pray for our children. Pray for our country. Pray for the victims. And, yes, pray for the people who commit these disgusting crimes. I believe that only God can speak to a heart so troubled.

 

[ddavis_1313]

The teachers will just be the first ones to die.

Training only goes far when you're getting shot at.

So what’s your solution then? You sure are knocking down everyone else’s suggestions.

And to say teachers will be the first to die bc training only goes so far when getting shot at. That in itself can be applied to a situation where a gunman is receiving returning fire. You “assume” it will play out only one way which is your scenario but that’s not true. You can’t know what would happen. No one does or could. I am also not saying that this is the cure all.

What I do know is that changes need to be made to secure schools. That we can all agree on. Limiting mag capacity and banning certain firearms isn’t the answer. It’s not even a step in the right direction. And the fact that certain political figures jump up and start pushing agendas or narratives before the blood has dried is grotesque and shows how little they truly care about the victims.


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[String&stick]

Our founding fathers allowed automatic weapons and cannons for a reason, because it is what our military had at the time and the same should be applied now.
This is a tragic incident but we don't blame vehicles when people run over people on purpose, we blame mental health and the person. When it comes to a shooting though people want to blame the gun for some reason.
Also what exactly do you propose we change, I would love to hear an actual change that doesn't infringe on others rights but keeps our classrooms protected like we protect our banks, politicians, and celebrities.

Um for the record schools are more secure than a shit load of banks! My banks has cameras. . . No guns, no bullet proof glass, no buzz in or intercom. Jus talk right in and say hello to your friendly banker! This school district had 4 paid security officers, they had locked outside doors and the requirement you check in at the front office. . . Doesn't matter when you just shoot the glass out and waltz right in!

 

[String&stick]

Curious where you're getting firearms within a couple days with a couple clicks of a mouse?

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until Walmart stopped selling "black guns" I could be in and out in 45 min with a new AR. I could head to a number of stores (Cabela's, bass pro, local gun shop) and as long as the internet is up and running a few clicks through the system and I'm walking out in under an hour with a new long gun.

 

[BuzzH]

maybe, but it could change the fact that schools are thought of as gun-free zones by the murderers looking for a soft target.

A teacher with a room full of students and a .380 is never going to be anything but a soft target.

 

[BuzzH]

So what’s your solution then? You sure are knocking down everyone else’s suggestions.

And to say teachers will be the first to die bc training only goes so far when getting shot at. That in itself can be applied to a situation where a gunman is receiving returning fire. You “assume” it will play out only one way which is your scenario but that’s not true. You can’t know what would happen. No one does or could. I am also not saying that this is the cure all.

What I do know is that changes need to be made to secure schools. That we can all agree on. Limiting mag capacity and banning certain firearms isn’t the answer. It’s not even a step in the right direction. And the fact that certain political figures jump up and start pushing agendas or narratives before the blood has dried is grotesque and shows how little they truly care about the victims.


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I told you.

Offer thoughts and prayers, build caskets, and bury the dead.

That's all we've ever done and all we'll ever do...what changes after Sandy Hook and Columbine helped prevent this one?

Nothing special about this one, just another to add to the list, just like the next one will be.

I'm not arguing with you that firearm restrictions are the answer. That's not a practical solution any more than arming teachers.

 

[robby denning]

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There is only one solution to the problems in this world, and Jesus has already told us how this ends. So pray. Pray for our children. Pray for our country. Pray for the victims. And, yes, pray for the people who commit these disgusting crimes. I believe that only God can speak to a heart so troubled.

Yip, we’re treating symptoms of a major “heart” problem.

If anyone goes back in my criminal record, they’d be shocked at where I was headed at 16-19 years old. God changed my heart, and that’s what changed my behaviour. I’d never consider doing the things I was doing back then, and not because they are against the law, but against my fellow man. That’s what God n Jesus changed in me.

 

[30338]

Reroute the $40 billion from Ukraine and spend it on better school security. If that isn't enough, cut another 10% from the defense industry and use that for more school security.

When a nation spends $5 trillion a year, don't tell me there isn't money for school security.

 

[jjohnsonElknewbie]

Un until Walmart stopped selling "black guns" I could be in and out in 45 min with a new AR. I could head to a number of stores (Cabela's, bass pro, local gun shop) and as long as the internet is up and running a few clicks through the system and I'm walking out in under an hour with a new long gun.

And your point is?

 

[robby denning]

A teacher with a room full of students and a .380 is never going to be anything but a soft target.

Jack Wilson at the Church of Christ in White Settlement Texas wouldn’t agree with you.

 

[jjohnsonElknewbie]

A teacher with a room full of students and a .380 is never going to be anything but a soft target.

Disagree. IF the perception of schools as soft targets was changed through having armed faculty or guards on campus they would be less attactive targets.

 

[BuzzH]

Jack Wilson at the Church of Christ in White Settlement Texas wouldn’t agree with you.

Cherry pick the one case in a Church...lipstick on a pig.

 

[Broomd]

maybe, but it could change the fact that schools are thought of as gun-free zones by the murderers looking for a soft target.

Yep, what a great point.
If people are instilled with the understanding that defending one's self is an inherent personal freedom it may go a long way to preventing these events. And those that propagate this evil would know that others aren't going to allow it!

 

[BuzzH]

Disagree. IF the perception of schools as soft targets was changed through having armed faculty or guards on campus they would be less attactive targets.

This school DID have armed guards, so did the store in Buffalo.

How did that work out?

Look, get it through your head...these people that do these things, they don't care that they're going to die. Its highly doubtful an armed guard or faculty is even a consideration for someone hell bent on mass murder...they most obviously are not into making rational decisions.

Good grief...the lack of critical thinking on these threads is staggering.

 

[robby denning]

Cherry pick the one case in a Church...lipstick on a pig.

There are others, too, but that one case has stimulated other churches to arm themselves. I know of one personally. At Easter this year, I noticed guys with wired mics, and baggy clothes posted throughout the church. And at regular service, I see these guys wandering around.

That’s how guarding schools would likely work…things would begin to change.

 

[BuzzH]

Yep, what a great point.
If people are instilled with the understanding that defending one's self is an inherent personal freedom it may go a long way to preventing these events. And those that propagate this evil would know that others aren't going to allow it!

People that commit these acts are not going to think about anything, including what you think, what I think, or an armed teacher or security guard think.

They don't care...the absolute best case scenario for them is life in prison. They're insane, they don't care anymore.

 

[diamond10x]

Maybe teachers and administrators should be allowed to discipline out of control kids? Maybe parents should be parents and not constantly coddling and rubbing sugar on their behinds scared to hurt their feelings.

This has nothing to do with guns, mental illness, or whatever anyone wants to blame. This is strictly a symptom of piss poor parenting, schools/LEO being handcuffed, and an everybody is a winner you can identify as whatever you want society.