Tell me why I shouldn't move to wyoming...

[Mojave]

I personally feel like the America that most people are actually looking for exist in the Dakotas more than it does in Wyoming.

 

[Dos Perros]

If the Dakotas had mountains and trout and grizzly bears and wilderness then I agree.

 

[KurtR]

I personally feel like the America that most people are actually looking for exist in the Dakotas more than it does in Wyoming.

No winters are bad wind is horrible and meth is every where here. I mean sioux falls hit a record with 14 homicides this year its a rough dangerous place. The hills are over run with tourists and cwd is killing all of our deer. Elk license are pretty much once in a lifetime.

 

[Mojave]

A friend of mine went to the Upper Peninsula from El Paso a few years ago. They bought a place for cheap and then Covid happened and turned that whole Northern Michigan, Uppers Peninsula and Northern Wisconsin thing into the same BS that Wyoming, Idaho and Montana became.

There really isn't anything left.

Alaska kicks ass, but you need a hell of a boat or an airplane license to enjoy the outdoors to the same extent as Wyoming, Idaho or Montana.

 

[Mojave]

I don't know much about South Dakota, but NODAK was a paradise before the oil boom.

Also a winter weight blond behind every tree.

 

[grfox92]

Moving to Wyoming is like wanting to date a gal with a temper - chit chat online for a year, spend every other weekend together, learn everything about her, listen to her favorite songs, even get her name tattooed on your neck, but until actually living with her when she’s not on best behavior, there’s no way to know if it’s the right flavor of crazy for you. Lol

This is accurate. I was a Wyoming visitor before I moved here. Bought a piece of property where me and my wife were possitive we wanted to spend the rest of our lives and raise our kids.

4 years later, we never built on that land. Have no intention on ever living there under any circumstances. Why? Because we rented a place right down the road and found out a bunch of factors that we would never have known without living there. It would be a miserable existence.

Wyoming is not what you think it is when you visit.

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[jmez]

SD has the Black Hills and a ton of trout.

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[StuckInTheEast]

This is accurate. I was a Wyoming visitor before I moved here. Bought a piece of property where me and my wife were possitive we wanted to spend the rest of our lives and raise our kids.

4 years later, we never built on that land. Have no intention on ever living there under any circumstances. Why? Because we rented a place right down the road and found out a bunch of factors that we would never have known without living there. It would be a miserable existence.

Wyoming is not what you think it is when you visit.

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Care to disclose general area and why you originally were so certain and what the biggest of the "bunch of factors" that woukd keep you from ever living there were?

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Yeah the total of 6 billionaires that have residence in Wyoming are pushing out all the millionaires. Lol.

 

[Dos Perros]

Wyoming is not what you think it is when you visit.

That damned vole really got to you!

 

[pacoalcracker]

I'm kinda thinking Wyoming is the least populated state, by a lot, for some very good reasons.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

I'm kinda thinking Wyoming is the least populated state, by a lot, for some very good reasons.

I say this as a property owner in Wyoming, in a generally “not windy” area of the state which is rare.

It’s a great state to visit but living there full time would suck.

 

[Haro450]

Generally speaking I think you have to be a hardy individual to enjoy and endure a Wyoming winter. Its not all sunshine and rainbows. I enjoy winter time activities more than I do summer time activities.

 

[wyosam]

I've heard and read this "Billionaires pushing out the Millionaires" bit countless times last few years in various places online and first hand from residents on our travels in MT, WY and Idaho.
I'm sure there is truth to it in some places but this is the first time I've seen it applied to Sheridan...typically it's brought up when folks talk about places like Alpine, Star Valley, Hoback, even Cody for that matter or over in Victor or Swan valley in Idaho or up in various places outside Bozeman and Kalispell in MT...and the realestate prices would much more support that comment in those areas...but Sheridan? Not really. There are multi-million dollar listings in most any modest sized town/city in the American west with any kind of view or potential tourist draw so sure, there are a few around Sheridan but that area is nothing like the others I mentioned and I've been through them all and had a eye on the realestate markets in all of them as well.
You get alot more for your money east of the Bighorns than the places listed above but you dont get the same views or proximity to the parks or Jackson area there...not that it isn't overpriced, but what isn't these days?

We like the cody area, just not real interested in Cody itself or any place on the main drag into Yellowstone, just too much tourist traffic. Going a bit north and/or east to Powell or Greybull may be an option, both areas on our short list to put boots on the ground and have seen some listings that caught our attention.

In a few areas there is a possibility of buying a second home and putting it up as an STR when we aren't there for few years depending on how things pan out here in the next year, but the Zoning and STR statutes in Cody don't support that idea either and depending on if Park county decides to follow Teton County's lead in regard to STR regulations that may rule out Powell as well if we were to go that route.

As I've said a few times, there is alot to consider and the situation is very dynamic presently. I wish I had the freedom and flexibility to just pack up and go as so many have suggested...its just not that simple presently, but that may change over the next year as certain things fall into place.

I certainly appreciate all the input of all kinds folks, never thought there would be this much response to this post.

One thing to consider- if you buy a property and STR it for a time, there is a really good chance you’re starting in a deep hole with the neighbors once you move in. Short term rentals have been one of many drivers of the problems in the west


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[wyosam]

Do you believe what you type? No one has left Jackson for Sheridan.

Billionaires pushing out millionaires?

I wouldn’t say large numbers, but I personally know several who have done exactly that (well, 1 was buffalo). A lot of normal working class people have left the Jackson area (to include star valley/drictor), myself included. I had a home there that I didn’t have to worry about price increases on, and the longer we stayed the more money we would have made on it. We left because the town and traffic sucks, and the “real” people are leaving in hoards since the covid rush.


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[grfox92]

Care to disclose general area and why you originally were so certain and what the biggest of the "bunch of factors" that woukd keep you from ever living there were?

I will not disclose the exact area, but will say it's one of the most desirable areas in the state.

Factors;

1. The wind will drive most people into a mental institution.
2. Water for a well is scarce, and you could potentially need to bring water in and live off a cistern.
3. Predators. Legitimately not safe for my kids to play outside unsupervised due to prevalence of G Bears, and even though mountain lion attacks are rare, they are there.
4. Snow drifts. You need to own equipment to clear snow drifts if you aren't on a country road otherwise you will be literally snowed in.
5. This is the biggest factor.....the people. While there are some great people in the community, the majority are complete and total assholes. They are miserable, they hate everyone and everything, they despise new construction even though their house wasn't always there. Literal acts of vandalism, draino in the generator gas tanks, slashed tires on trucks, nails dumped in the driveway. All because someone bought a building lot in a subdivision and decided to build a house on it. Want to build a new garage on your property? Neighbors will go to the county to protest it. I could go on and on with specific examples, but no one knows how to mind their own business.

People move to Wyoming and then turn around and move back to where they came from all the time. This is not me making the conclusion because of an isolated incident. Talk to realtors. You can see it in the market. Same house will change hands 3 times in 3 years. Wyoming is a wild brutal place. People visit in the spring and summer and think they have an idea what's it's like. But in reality they have no clue.

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[FAAFO]

I wouldn’t say large numbers, but I personally know several who have done exactly that (well, 1 was buffalo). A lot of normal working class people have left the Jackson area (to include star valley/drictor), myself included. I had a home there that I didn’t have to worry about price increases on, and the longer we stayed the more money we would have made on it. We left because the town and traffic sucks, and the “real” people are leaving in hoards since the covid rush.

Millionaires that left Jackson for Sheridan? I’m calling BS. But yes I know a lot of residents that have left Jackson. They sure as hell are not millionaires

 

[FAAFO]

I will not disclose the exact area, but will say it's one of the most desirable areas in the state.

Factors;

1. The wind will drive most people into a mental institution.
2. Water for a well is scarce, and you could potentially need to bring water in and live off a cistern.
3. Predators. Legitimately not safe for my kids to play outside unsupervised due to prevalence of G Bears, and even though mountain lion attacks are rare, they are there.
4. Snow drifts. You need to own equipment to clear snow drifts if you aren't on a country road otherwise you will be literally snowed in.
5. This is the biggest factor.....the people. While there are some great people in the community, the majority are complete and total assholes. They are miserable, they hate everyone and everything, they despise new construction even though their house wasn't always there. Literal acts of vandalism, draino in the generator gas tanks, slashed tires on trucks, nails dumped in the driveway. All because someone bought a building lot in a subdivision and decided to build a house on it. Want to build a new garage on your property? Neighbors will go to the county to protest it. I could go on and on with specific examples, but no one knows how to mind their own business.

People move to Wyoming and then turn around and move back to where they came from all the time. This is not me making the conclusion because of an isolated incident. Talk to realtors. You can see it in the market. Same house will change hands 3 times in 3 years. Wyoming is a wild brutal place. People visit in the spring and summer and think they have an idea what's it's like. But in reality they have no clue.

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[Blandry]

If the Dakotas had mountains and trout and grizzly bears and wilderness then I agree.

Don't discount the Dakotas... they have it all. I travel to ND/SD/MT/WY and NM (CO home base) for my federal job and don't rule them out for sure!! The best freshwater fishing in the country imo with the Missouri river. I travel to all of those states and would find a home in SD or WY. Maybe even Scottsbluff, NE. If you've never fished the Oahe reservoir area, it's a sight to behold summer or winter. If I was offered a job in Pierre or Bismarck I'd jump on it so fast lol. But I love cold weather.

 

[TaperPin]

Millionaires that left Jackson for Sheridan? I’m calling BS. But yes I know a lot of residents that have left Jackson. They sure as hell are not millionaires

Many millionaires left Jackson decades ago, for Dubois, Pinedale, Cody, Sheridan and Lander. It simply made sense to sell out to the billionaires and build somewhere else.