ericthered
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Now that is funny….my oldest whoHopefully your daughters don't start family's in the mean time.
I’m taking to BC next year was worried about that. I told her not to screw this hunt up! The other two are still trolling….
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Now that is funny….my oldest whoHopefully your daughters don't start family's in the mean time.
Sounds like Osha needs to get involved, for hunter safety of course.Life insurance in place to ensure everything is paid off should I fall off a cliff or get eaten buy a bear.
another thought…most guys whitetail hunting climbing in trees will have more claims per hunter than adventurer hunters who are cared for by a guide.
No, not necessarily, but you should certainly have a plan and be on track to accomplish your goals laid out in that plan before spending extravagantly. For example, say you want to retire at 65, with a 120k standard of living. To do that successfully, you need to know how much to save each year to do so. Say you’ve done the planning and found you need to max out your 401k and save/invest an additional $20k per year in non qualified accounts. Once that’s done and satisfied for the year, or is solidly on track to be satisfied through automatic contributions, then you get to spend. Until then you don’t. And you also don’t get to spend if doing so now prevents you from saving sufficiently in future years. And if you’re guessing at how much you should be saving/spending, you’re doing it wrong and shouldn’t be spending until you’ve done the proper planning.Not trying to split hairs here but want to clarify your last paragraph.
Do you think that you should be 100% debt free (including a mortgage) and have a retirement fully funded to go on any sort of luxury or discretionary trip?
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No, not necessarily, but you should certainly have a plan and be on track to accomplish your goals laid out in that plan before spending extravagantly. For example, say you want to retire at 65, with a 120k standard of living. To do that successfully, you need to know how much to save each year to do so. Say you’ve done the planning and found you need to max out your 401k and save/invest an additional $20k per year in non qualified accounts. Once that’s done and satisfied, or is solidly on track to be satisfied through automatic contributions, then you get to spend. Until then you don’t. And you also don’t get to spend if doing so now prevents you from saving sufficiently in future years. And if you’re guessing and how much you should be saving/spending, you’re doing it wrong and shouldn’t be spending until you’ve done the proper planning.
At the end of the day, someone will always hate on what you do when it comes to your money or finances. No 2 people will agree on how money should be spent, and more importantly, what's important to them.Good luck on your hunts man.
If I were you I'd close this thread and do your thing.
It doesn't matter what a bunch people on a forum think any ways.
In the end you just got to do what you think is best for you and your family.
Not if you don't ever tell anyone.At the end of the day, someone will always hate on what you do when it comes to your money or finances. No 2 people will agree on how money should be spent, and more importantly, what's important to them.
Well, a lot of folks won't like to hear this, but if you want to hear the "bottom line", here it is. And it is what it is, regardless what you believe it is. Everything we have belongs to God. He demands 10% of the "first fruits" in our tithe, but it's all (100%) still His. We are just stewards of what He blesses us with, and we all eventually have to answer to Him. So if you believe that taking on even more debt to fund adventure hunts is being a good steward.......well, that's for you to decide and answer for. It doesn't really matter what "we" think.Following the debt free approach to adventure hunting will leave most people with YouTube memories.
Firmly agree 100%.
I’m definitely in the don’t extend yourself camp and that you and your family all have to be on same page. But I don’t think waiting until you’re 100% debt free is necessarily the answer for everyone either.
Only thing I know is tomorrow isn’t guaranteed and you can be gone in an instant. Make good choices and plan for the future, but don’t miss out on living life.
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The same standard should be applied to car loans, second homes, etc. while I disagree with your position, thank you for making the point.I will guarantee , I will be here tomorrow, and tomorrow I guarantee I will be here the next day. I will do this every day , and only be wrong once. Kidding aside, you are right. Ya have to live a little. If you need to take a home loan for a hunt, you can't afford the hunt. Many hunts are very cheap . I can go to Minnesota to hunt bear for about $2,000 total cost. I can hunt New York and stay with my uncle, for just a few hundred bucks for a deer hunt. However it is not much different than Wisconsin. I could go out west for deer for $2,000? maybe $3,000, but we are talking about $20,000 hunts here right?
The NWT Dall’s sheep hunt will be pushing a $100k five years from now. If you put your deposit down 5 years from now and then actually go 2 years from then….inflation.
No it won’t, you’re just telling yourself that to make yourself feel better about a poor financial decision. A NWT Dall sheep hunt can be had today for $50,000, 20 years ago it was about $20,000, 5 years ago it was about $35,000, I’m guessing 5 years from now it will be $65-75k.
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Dont let facts get into the way of people presenting themselves as financial authorities. What I find most entertaining is the average financial advisor or CFP is busy working, especially the ones who have time to lurk on forums and beat a dead horse. If they were such wizards, they would be off on a yacht somewhere being fed grapes and fanned with a feather.If you borrowed $50K today on a 10 year term at 6% and made a $1000 a month payment you would have it paid off in about 5 years. You will have paid about $57k for the hunt. So, you can book and pay for the hunt now with borrowed money and pay $57K or save up and pay $65K. Not sure that borrowing the money is such a poor financial decision.
I think the teaching of financial guru Dave Ramsey is very similar to this. A favorite quote of Dave’s is from Proverbs: “The borrower is slave to the lender.”Well, a lot of folks won't like to hear this, but if you want to hear the "bottom line", here it is. And it is what it is, regardless what you believe it is. Everything we have belongs to God. He demands 10% of the "first fruits" in our tithe, but it's all (100%) still His. We are just stewards of what He blesses us with, and we all eventually have to answer to Him. So if you believe that taking on even more debt to fund adventure hunts is being a good steward.......well, that's for you to decide and answer for. It doesn't really matter what "we" think.
You aren’t getting a 10 yr loan at 6%.If you borrowed $50K today on a 10 year term at 6% and made a $1000 a month payment you would have it paid off in about 5 years. You will have paid about $57k for the hunt. So, you can book and pay for the hunt now with borrowed money and pay $57K or save up and pay $65K. Not sure that borrowing the money is such a poor financial decision.
Metaphorically speaking, the successful ones pretty much do.Dont let facts get into the way of people presenting themselves as financial authorities. What I find most entertaining is the average financial advisor or CFP is busy working, especially the ones who have time to lurk on forums and beat a dead horse. If they were such wizards, they would be off on a yacht somewhere being fed grapes and fanned with a feather.
I saw rates under 7 online but you are probably correct. I guess there will be fees as well. So you would probably pay the same or maybe save a few grand at most. You would just get to go a couple years earlier and if health or age was a concern that may be a big benefit. Still doesn't look like much of a poor financial decision in this example. The OP isn't going sheep hunting though so their scenarios may not look the same.You aren’t getting a 10 yr loan at 6%.