Stars in the sky rinella documentary

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Finally got around to watching this.

It is good. Nice, thoughtful meditation on hunting and it’s place in modern society. Feels like it is more targeted at the non hunter than hunter crowd.

Curious that it omits a number of familiar brand elements of rinella’s typical stuff. No mention of meateater, no first lite gear or product placements for his other brands.
 
Yeah, how do you see it? I’ve known about it a long time. Nothing on the website or via newsletter??
 
I’m really excited to see how this documentary shapes hunting culture. I honestly think it will. When I talk to non hunters I feel “ok” at describing why I do what I do. But this will change the game for me. The moral philosopher was a game changer as well. He understand that life eats life and that in order to live other things die, regardless of if you are a vegan accountant or a construction worker that hunts for food for his families table.


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Link below.

https://vimeo.com/ondemand/starsinthesky


If I had one gripe about the meateater it is their choice of Video platforms. I am sure they stay away from iTunes for business reasons. I presume apple takes a big chunk of revenue. The Vimeo platform is ok but it ain’t easy to find the movie. That VHX player gives me grief. Videos don’t play well or at all sometimes.
 
Watched it last night. Not exactly what I was expecting. Lacked some continuity and context at times but a good watch overall. Kind of like a slower version of the regular show. And he still misrepresents why the eskimos in Staffansons book keep polar bear skins in their house. It would have really added to the long-term conservation message had he accurately told that story. Properly tie-in an ancient culture to what we do today and you make a strong case for the modern hunter/conservationist.
 
Watched it last night. Not exactly what I was expecting. Lacked some continuity and context at times but a good watch overall. Kind of like a slower version of the regular show. And he still misrepresents why the eskimos in Staffansons book keep polar bear skins in their house. It would have really added to the long-term conservation message had he accurately told that story. Properly tie-in an ancient culture to what we do today and you make a strong case for the modern hunter/conservationist.

Just curious how he misrepresents Staffansons book? I've heard him say this many times and have no real knowledge of it myself.
 
Just curious how he misrepresents Staffansons book? I've heard him say this many times and have no real knowledge of it myself.


It's a much deeper, more symbiotic ritual. Steffanson relates that the Eskimos believe that there are certain things the animals need (and the animals are wiser than man) that they can ONLY get from a human. Seals and whales live in the ocean so are constantly thirsty for fresh water - so the eskimo pours a cup of fresh water in the seals mouth when he kills him. So yes, the seal preferred that person to kill him, but the main reason was that he knew that man would serve his needs (fresh water) after he was killed. Polar bears cannot themselves make the tools they need in the afterlife so they allow themselves to be killed by the eskimo who will then hang the hides in their houses (and treat them with honour) along with scrapers, bow-drills and knives. The polar bear's soul accompanies the hide, and after a few days the soul is able to take with it the souls of the tools he needs into the realm of the polar bears. If the tools are good and serve the polar bear's needs, he will let the other (living) polar bears souls know that they should prefer to be killed by that specific eskimo because he will make sure to give him what he needs for his afterlife journey.

This is VERY conservation-minded message. You respect, treat well, and do not abuse your resource (bears/seals, etc) else they will pay you back by telling other of their kind to NOT let you kill their kin and you will starve and die. The tie-in to proper wildlife management and wise use is right there - but it was missed. The seals and bears don't just say, "Hey, Joe is a nice guy - let him kill you." They say, "Joe cares about us seals and polar bears, gives us what we cannot provide for ourselves (you can translate this into a topic of habitat pretty easily), and therefore, continue to support Joe and his kind's way of thinking and acting by giving him the good fortune to kill you so he can also get what he needs (meat/hides). If you want to get religious about it, it is The Golden Rule.
 
It's a much deeper, more symbiotic ritual. Steffanson relates that the Eskimos believe that there are certain things the animals need (and the animals are wiser than man) that they can ONLY get from a human. Seals and whales live in the ocean so are constantly thirsty for fresh water - so the eskimo pours a cup of fresh water in the seals mouth when he kills him. So yes, the seal preferred that person to kill him, but the main reason was that he knew that man would serve his needs (fresh water) after he was killed. Polar bears cannot themselves make the tools they need in the afterlife so they allow themselves to be killed by the eskimo who will then hang the hides in their houses (and treat them with honour) along with scrapers, bow-drills and knives. The polar bear's soul accompanies the hide, and after a few days the soul is able to take with it the souls of the tools he needs into the realm of the polar bears. If the tools are good and serve the polar bear's needs, he will let the other (living) polar bears souls know that they should prefer to be killed by that specific eskimo because he will make sure to give him what he needs for his afterlife journey.

This is VERY conservation-minded message. You respect, treat well, and do not abuse your resource (bears/seals, etc) else they will pay you back by telling other of their kind to NOT let you kill their kin and you will starve and die. The tie-in to proper wildlife management and wise use is right there - but it was missed. The seals and bears don't just say, "Hey, Joe is a nice guy - let him kill you." They say, "Joe cares about us seals and polar bears, gives us what we cannot provide for ourselves (you can translate this into a topic of habitat pretty easily), and therefore, continue to support Joe and his kind's way of thinking and acting by giving him the good fortune to kill you so he can also get what he needs (meat/hides). If you want to get religious about it, it is The Golden Rule.

Wow thanks for the indepth response. I guess I'll have to add it to my reading list. I'm currently working on TR's Hunting Trips of a Ranchman.
 
Wow thanks for the indepth response. I guess I'll have to add it to my reading list. I'm currently working on TR's Hunting Trips of a Ranchman.

Add the Land of feast and famine too. A great book written by helge ingestad, the guy who found Viking settlements in the new world and helped prove the Norse were here well before Columbus.
 
I am surprised this is just on Vimeo and not on Netflix. I would think that Netflix would reach a larger audience.
 
Seemed to be a more independent film conceived between Rinella, his close circle, and ZPZ productions.

I think they intentionally made it with the non-hunter in mind, which I can appreciate. For me, it wasn't as enjoyable as their standard content, but I like the effort to include/educate another demographic.
 
Wow thanks for the indepth response. I guess I'll have to add it to my reading list. I'm currently working on TR's Hunting Trips of a Ranchman.

Is this the title, I was searching and found these:

Good Hunting: In the Pursuit of Big Game in the West
Ranch Life and the Hunting Trail

Maybe Netflix will carry it once they show some viewership on Vimeo.

It would be nice to get this sort of media out into the masses. A lot of this stuff seems self serving because it jus doesn't get the right press. But when somebody makes an anti-hunting movie it makes it into every national news headline eventually. It even states in the film: "Hunting has a PR problem" Yup, sure does, and the hunting media companies need to help us out.

Not ragging, just pointing it out that this is a good film to get out there, Steve is always very thoughtful in his responses and representation to non-hunters.
 
Seemed Like a good place for my first post despite not seeing the movie yet. Rinella and others have given me the itch to start hunting later in life and trying to figure it all out. The DamnRinella screen name is in jest that he started me down this rabbit hole and it’s not cheap either!
 
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