SilencerCo Scythe Ti failures

[Tmac]

Mine is going to have to live on a bolt action .223/5.56 and even then probably not going to let my grands shoot it. Besides being dirty, I’m beginning to wonder how it would do on a 17 HMR. This sucks.

 

[TxLite]

I now have over 5,000 on mine (mostly .223), but this thread definitely has me nervous. I don't think I would put this can on a hunting rifle now.

Do it for science

 

[intunegp]

So is the Nomad Ti XC the clear front runner for an alternative?

Many people ditched and still haven't forgiven Dead Air for the Sierra 5 debacle and I've seen reports of the original Nomad Ti blowing up much like the Scythes here. Are printed cans generally considered more durable than welded?

This seems to be pretty much the only discussion of exploding Scythes on the internet. Everything else that turns up in a quick Google search references this thread. Four of the voters here appear to have made an account here just to report their failure in this thread...I'd be curious to see how the percentages changed if everyone who hasn't blown one up would join and vote.

 

[HighUintas]

So is the Nomad Ti XC the clear front runner for an alternative?

Many people ditched and still haven't forgiven Dead Air for the Sierra 5 debacle and I've seen reports of the original Nomad Ti blowing up much like the Scythes here. Are printed cans generally considered more durable than welded?

This seems to be pretty much the only discussion of exploding Scythes on the internet. Everything else that turns up in a quick Google search references this thread. Four of the voters here appear to have made an account here just to report their failure in this thread...I'd be curious to see how the percentages changed if everyone who hasn't blown one up would join and vote.

I have not yet heard of a single 3d printed Ti can blowing up

 

[Ryan Avery]

So is the Nomad Ti XC the clear front runner for an alternative?

Many people ditched and still haven't forgiven Dead Air for the Sierra 5 debacle and I've seen reports of the original Nomad Ti blowing up much like the Scythes here. Are printed cans generally considered more durable than welded?

This seems to be pretty much the only discussion of exploding Scythes on the internet. Everything else that turns up in a quick Google search references this thread. Four of the voters here appear to have made an account here just to report their failure in this thread...I'd be curious to see how the percentages changed if everyone who hasn't blown one up would join and vote.

It's probably a small number of scythes blowing up. But what's interesting is the lack of info coming from SilencerCo. Gunwerks had a similar issue, emailed everyone, and eventually recalled the can to get ahead of it.


I wouldn't say a 3d printed can is "more" durable,, but it's monolithic, making failure points minimal.

 

[Ryan Avery]

Any more the 6UM or 6.5PRC from previous post?

No, I have been trying to blow up a UM can with those.

 

[Tullis94]

Still no issues with mine. I have a second can on the way though, and the scythe will probably stay on my 22 creed once it arrives. I love the scythe, but I have lost some confidence in it. At this point I honestly wish I would have went a different direction. I don't see myself being a Silencer Co customer again unless they start taking some accountability.

 

[jkoehle1]

At least they make it and can repair it.

The sierra 5 debacle stopped me from dead air.

 

[WhatToHunt]

Still no issues with mine. I have a second can on the way though, and the scythe will probably stay on my 22 creed once it arrives. I love the scythe, but I have lost some confidence in it. At this point I honestly wish I would have went a different direction. I don't see myself being a Silencer Co customer again unless they start taking some accountability.

The Scythe is my first can and while awesome on paper and pleased from a handful of rounds thru it, I am very hesitant to trust it. And I planned to swap it on at least two different rifles. So now I'm down the SiCo path with adapters/muzzle devices for two rifles. Have been considering a Hybrid 46 or Omega 300 since I know others who have them and recommended. So lame to have a $1k can in which I have little trust.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

At least they make it and can repair it.

The sierra 5 debacle stopped me from dead air.

Yup. There's enough companies that make great products and have never had widespread catastrophic failures. No reason to mess with Dead Air and SiCo at this point.

 

[jkoehle1]

Yup. There's enough companies that make great products and have never had widespread catastrophic failures. No reason to mess with Dead Air and SiCo at this point.

Its sort of a hard to judge thing. I have a scythe ti and stm.

If a less common manufactuer sells 2000 and has the same failure rate vs - selling 30000, you likely dont hear about it.

Although im a bit skeptical of their 1/1000 fail rate if there are 20 failures here.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Its sort of a hard to judge thing. I have a scythe ti and stm.

If a less common manufactuer sells 2000 and has the same failure rate vs - selling 30000, you likely dont hear about it.

Although im a bit skeptical of their 1/1000 fail rate if there are 20 failures here.

It seems like dozens of silencer makers have popped up over the past few years, from here on, I'll stick to TBAC. I'm also skeptical of the 1/1000 failure rate but mostly because silencer co refuses to openly discuss it, not because the figure is unreasonable.

One thing is for certain, the stories of people getting silencers fixed by SiCo are far better than the stories of people trying to get help from Dead Air. Dead Air docent even make their own stuff, they just put their name on it. My friend that blew up his Nomad Ti waited like 8 months for his replacement with periods of weeks where he couldn't get anybody on the phone or a response to his emails. A least these Scythes are back in a week in many cases with no questions asked.

 

[BBob]

No reason to mess with Dead Air

So it seems that the original problem with DA and those suppressor's is they were caught dealing with the 3rd party that originally made them and they were the ones that couldn't repair them in a timely manner not DA. Any thoughts as to DA manufacturing the new 3D printed cans themselves? Seems a good reason they exited the subcontractor route and went to their own manufacturing. Interesting to see if the new cans ever have issues and how they'll be handled moving forward.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

So it seems that the original problem with DA and those suppressor's is they were caught dealing with the 3rd party that originally made them and they were the ones that couldn't repair them in a timely manner not DA. Any thoughts as to DA manufacturing the new 3D printed cans themselves? Seems a good reason they exited the subcontractor route and went to their own manufacturing. Interesting to see if the new cans ever have issues and how they'll be handled moving forward.

Supposedly the delay issues were with KGM made cans that were sent to KGM for warranty and DA is making the new stuff in house. I'm banking on not needing a warranty, same reason I don't buy Vortex scopes I don't care how good the warranty is because I don't want to use it. I think the Nomad XC has a good chance of not needing a warranty, hopefully. If I have to use a warranty on something most likely the replacement is getting sold and I will have moved on to something else before even receiving the replacement. Maybe I have hunting product trust issues lol.

 

[wind gypsy]

I hopped off the scythe wagon onto the nomad XC wagon, have both. It will be interesting to see how these 3d printed DA cans hold up with more cans in the wild and more rounds through them. I do like the option to put a brake on the end cap. Those recoilx end cap brakes sure make a rifle recoil nicely. Less interested in the $1600 non-modular alternative from TBAC.

I'm still happy with a g1 ultra7 as well but its longer and heavier, so it hasn't gone hunting for a while.

 

[mtwarden]

I'm definitely looking at the Nomad Ti, but also the OCL Hydrogen K—what I'm no longer looking at is the Scythe Ti

 

[thinhorn_AK]

So it seems that the original problem with DA and those suppressor's is they were caught dealing with the 3rd party that originally made them and they were the ones that couldn't repair them in a timely manner not DA. Any thoughts as to DA manufacturing the new 3D printed cans themselves? Seems a good reason they exited the subcontractor route and went to their own manufacturing. Interesting to see if the new cans ever have issues and how they'll be handled moving forward.

Well they still use that subcontractor, not every silencer they make now is 3d printed. I don't know but I haven't seen anything saying the 3d cans are made in house and not by a sub contractor but I also haven't paid much attention so maybe they are.

 

[HighUintas]

I have looked for information on where their 3d printed cans are made and can't find anything. There's nothing on their website

 

[ScreamingPotato]

I'm definitely looking at the Nomad Ti, but also the OCL Hydrogen K—what I'm no longer looking at is the Scythe Ti

I'm sure you're aware but for others reading there's an important distinction between the Nomad Ti and the Nomad Ti XC. The XC is the 3d printed one, the Ti I believe is welded.

 

[CoHunter1991]

I have a scythe TI and run it on all 6 of my rifles the largest of which is a 300WM seekins w/ a 22" barrel. Are there any signs the can is about to fail? I keep looking it over every time i shoot after reading this thread paranoid.