Sig cross vs custom tikka build??

[cuerro viejo]

That’s good to know man. My son is 10 and will using it too.

I just sold my Bergara b14 HMR last week as well. It was a shooter but just too heavy for my liking


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My daughter is up their head count wise with it. That rifle has hammered everything from hogs, to bears, elk, mule deer, pile of whitetails and aoudad. I currently run it with Raptor 8 with 3" reflex. I had to trim hand guard 1/4 inch but took two seconds with chopped saw.

for future reference the copper creek 139 Scenars shoot very well,

 

[TNHighlands]

Own both. Both are stupid accurate.
Tikka's are sleeker and have better triggers.
But, the cross gives little to nothing up to the tikka in performance.

 

[jadkins223]

Own both. Both are stupid accurate.
Tikka's are sleeker and have better triggers.
But, the cross gives little to nothing up to the tikka in performance.


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Very nice sir. That’s the sawtooth model right ? That’s one bad dude !


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[mtnbound]

I started down the path of wanting a shorter 6.5 CM to run suppressed. Then I started looking at folding stock options for various rifles. Adjustable LOP is a requirement too so my kids can also shoot it.

Then I found the sig cross and I’ve been to the gun store several times looking at them and watched every video out there on them.

I cannot build a 18” threaded barrel folding stock rifle for what I can get the sig for.

Therefore I’m here to ask for confirmation on proceeding with the sig cross. I’m
99.99% convinced this is the route I want to go.

Intended use is a mountain rifle out to 500 yards and whitetail here in Oklahoma.


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Have both, the Cross action feels ok, the Tikka action feels better. The Cross trigger is ok, the Tikka is better. Barrel changing is easy on the Cross; once you remove the original Tikka barrel, it's just as easy. It's easy to find Cross barrels in stock; Tikka barrels, however, typically need to be made, which can take some time. The stock mag release sucks on the Cross. The stock handguard on the Cross(non-PRS version) does not have an Arca rail and doesn't stabilize as well on a bag. Accuracy under 500 can be similar with the right load. Over 500 Tikka wins, but depending on your accuracy goals, the Cross may be acceptable. Action reliability goes to Tikka. I have had my Cross get difficult to cycle after some dirt was introduced into the action while riding a dirt bike. Affordability generally goes to the stock Cross, but depending on the chassis you go with and doing some shopping around, the cost of a Tikka can be very close if not cheaper e.g I paid $617 for a 6.5 CM, $135 to cut and thread, $400 for a UD chassis and $350 for a folding MDT stock. Now, if you opt for an HNT26 folder, the cost will be more, but I don't think it's a fair comparison between the Cross stock and the HNT26 stock. If I had to choose only one platform and my life depended on it, it would be Tikka.

 

[TNHighlands]

Very nice sir. That’s the sawtooth model right ? That’s one bad dude !


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Correct. 18" proof barrel is a shooter

 

[jadkins223]

Have both, the Cross action feels ok, the Tikka action feels better. The Cross trigger is ok, the Tikka is better. Barrel changing is easy on the Cross; once you remove the original Tikka barrel, it's just as easy. It's easy to find Cross barrels in stock; Tikka barrels, however, typically need to be made, which can take some time. The stock mag release sucks on the Cross. The stock handguard on the Cross(non-PRS version) does not have an Arca rail and doesn't stabilize as well on a bag. Accuracy under 500 can be similar with the right load. Over 500 Tikka wins, but depending on your accuracy goals, the Cross may be acceptable. Action reliability goes to Tikka. I have had my Cross get difficult to cycle after some dirt was introduced into the action while riding a dirt bike. Affordability generally goes to the stock Cross, but depending on the chassis you go with and doing some shopping around, the cost of a Tikka can be very close if not cheaper e.g I paid $617 for a 6.5 CM, $135 to cut and thread, $400 for a UD chassis and $350 for a folding MDT stock. Now, if you opt for an HNT26 folder, the cost will be more, but I don't think it's a fair comparison between the Cross stock and the HNT26 stock. If I had to choose only one platform and my life depended on it, it would be Tikka.

Thanks for the detailed reply bud. Appreciate the input especially since you have both. To keep the weight ratios about the same, I think I would have to put the tikka in the hnt 26? I have been looking in the classifieds for a used 6.5 tikka as a project but they don’t come up often. A big perk for me on the cross, it’s ready to roll as is.


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[JCMCUBIC]

... Action reliability goes to Tikka. I have had my Cross get difficult to cycle after some dirt was introduced into the action while riding a dirt bike...

I'd wondered about the reliability of the Cross under adverse conditions. It would be interesting to see one in Form's freeze testing.

 

[mtnbound]

Thanks for the detailed reply bud. Appreciate the input especially since you have both. To keep the weight ratios about the same, I think I would have to put the tikka in the hnt 26? I have been looking in the classifieds for a used 6.5 tikka as a project but they don’t come up often. A big perk for me on the cross, it’s ready to roll as is.


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Surprisingly the weight difference between the two is not noticeable and the Tikka/UD chassis is more balanced. I bought my Tikka’s brand new and they came with a $75 cash rebate. Yes, the Cross wins on, buy it and go shooting in same the trip to town.

 

[mtnbound]

I'd wondered about the reliability of the Cross under adverse conditions. It would be interesting to see one in Form's freeze testing.

I did a freeze test, nothing as detailed as Forms but it didn’t do very well. The bolt froze so hard I thought I was going to break it so I let it thaw out before I did anything else.

 

[jreyna]

I'm in the Sig Cross camp as well. I was originally planning to build a lightweight, folding-stock Tikka, but realized I could get into a Sig Cross for less...and skip the hassle (but I get it…sometimes it’s the journey that’s the fun).

I had a Cross in 6.5 Creedmoor a few years back, sold it to fund another rifle, and quickly regretted it. About a year later, I picked up a used one for $1200 with a scope and extras. After selling off the add-ons I didn’t need, I had about $800 into the rifle.

I’d always wanted an 18" .308, so when Proof Research started making barrels for the Cross, I jumped on it...and I couldn’t be happier. I got a smoking deal on OpticsPlanet for the barrel after applying coupons and got it for around $520. It’s super comfortable to shoot and consistently holds 1/2 MOA with the factory hunting loads I’ve tried.

My dad, who’s shorter statured, shot it with me last weekend. Adjusting the LOP and comb height took seconds. There’s a ton of value in these rifles, especially if you find a clean used one...and even more if you upgrade the barrel. The factory tubes are solid, but I liked dropping 6+ oz with the Proof.

If you snag one, I’d like to know what you think about it.

 

[P Carter]

one of my kids is left eyed dominate, she had been shooting a 6.5CM cross suppressed since she was 8, now that she is done growing, this year she is a getting her own forever rifle- custom 18" left-handed 6 CM.


The cross platform is hard to beat for a kid. outside of the adjustability and weight, the safety is ambidextrous, it has a much shorter trigger reach the traditional stock and the 2 stage trigger is an easier shot process for them to master IMO,(find back wall and then squeeze through)

I'm about to re-barrel it to a 22 CM for me though. If they offered it in the 22 or 6 CM, I think it would be the perfect kids rifle from get go

This is me - bought an sig cross in 6.5cm for me and my 13-year-old, cross-eye dominant son. It does what we ask it too. At some point when he’s done growing, maybe we’ll change, but it’s been great.

 

[packgoatguy]

the HNT26 is a great chassis and probably best lightweight chassis but not best for growing kid. It's not the easiest to change LOP , And cost almost as much as the sig cross itself

100% agree. I love the hnt26 chassis, but hate the stock... so I found a work-around and used an mdt adapter so I could use regular buffertube style stocks instead... opens up a world of options, and shaved a lot of weight. I run a SB Tactical folder on mine now which is smoother too. Also let's you buy a non-folder hnt26 and convert it to a folder.

 

[packgoatguy]

If weight matters... a chopped tikka in an HNT26 chassis is far lighter than the sig cross. My 16 inch stainless superlite tikka 6.5cm in a modified HNT26 chassis weighs 4.75lbs.

If cost is a concern, an mdt LSS chassis is relatively inexpensive, around $450 last I checked... and then an $15 Hogue 15degree grip, and a folder mechanism, and buffertube stock of your choosing. They are way over-engineered IMO, so you can shave a chunk of weight on them if you are creative and don't mind whittling on your stock a bit...

If that is still too expensive, my son and I have had success making 3D printed chassis stocks for our kimber rifles this spring. We are going to start working on the inlet for our tikka rifles here this next week or two... in which case I can meet or beat the weight and features of the hnt26 stock for just a couple hundred bucks.

Attached pic is the 4.75lb tikka in the hnt26 stock. My friend turned 70 last year, and wanted a chance to shoot an elk before his health wouldn't allow a hunt. He was able to use this rifle to take his bull at 450 yards, 1 shot. 140eld 2650fps mv.

The other pic is of a prototype 3d printed chassis stock I bedded to my kimber 84m 6.5cm.