Setter owners, some advice

I would stick with field bred setters personally. I'd also stay away from Berg's. I kinda think they are marketers more than they are breeders. @WRO has given good advice, IMO. I've seen some real fire breathing dragon type setters ride shotgun and be great house dogs.

Here's what I look for in a western bird dog:

1) About 45 to 55 pounds
2) Good feet, tight feet, black pads
3) Heat tolerance
4) Parents who compete and do well in wild bird trials
5) Something with pricing in line with the market; IMO the folks that charge double are charlatans
 
This is second hand so please take it as such but a friend who guides, breeds, and trains
Bird dogs chooses not to own setters for a few reasons. One is the long hair in the southwest for heat and flora issues. The other is he says they’re less “plug and play” as the GSPs and Pointers. They’re sensitive and benefit from an experienced hand in training , ie they don’t give as much grace to mistakes and are prone to shutting down with too heavy a hand. Again just hearsay,I’m sure others can weigh in with firsthand experience.
 
This is second hand so please take it as such but a friend who guides, breeds, and trains
Bird dogs chooses not to own setters for a few reasons. One is the long hair in the southwest for heat and flora issues. The other is he says they’re less “plug and play” as the GSPs and Pointers. They’re sensitive and benefit from an experienced hand in training , ie they don’t give as much grace to mistakes and are prone to shutting down with too heavy a hand. Again just hearsay,I’m sure others can weigh in with firsthand experience.

Each dog is wired differently, my male will eat stim, my females are a little softer. Pointers are definitely easier, gsps are a shit show because of the housewives and back yard breeding, I wouldn’t buy one with out researching the breeder.


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