Senate vote public lands sale

[GuyMontag42]

Thank you for posting

 

[jonesn3]

Have any of the orgs like Howl posted about this latest effort? Would like to write/call in again on this

 

[Blowdowner]

I can't speak to the exact details of the bill, but it is pretty important and valid to note that there is more going on than just preserving hunting lands. Over 80% of Nevada is "owned" and controlled by the federal government, mostly BLM. Where this becomes a real and damaging problem is when Reno, Las Vegas, and a couple of other growing areas literally hit the edge of federal land and can't grow further. They are completely surrounded, like an island.

So housing gets vastly more expensive, and it becomes far more difficult for families.

Two identical houses in Texas and Nevada, in equally prosperous neighborhoods, could have a half-million dollar gap between their two prices. That's a reality. I don't want to be seeing chunks of wilderness sold to developers, but there's a lot of crap scrubland around Vegas and Reno that barely sustain jackrabbits. I'm 100% in favor of selling off limited runs of lands that border those cities once a decade or so, because to not do so really harms the quality of life of people living here.

Reno and Vegas have no reason to exist.

 

[2-Stix]

emailed my 2 guys

 

[Yoder]

I always thought it was going to be the liberals selling all our public land to China to bail us out of bankruptcy. It feels so much better that the Republicans are screwing us. It seems more personal and intimate.

 

[mt terry d]

I always thought it was going to be the liberals selling all our public land to China to bail us out of bankruptcy. It feels so much better that the Republicans are screwing us. It seems more personal and intimate.

The Kinder and Gentler side of the Uni-Party.

 

[LostArra]

Carving Montana out from any land sale in the bill shows the back room politics at work.
Gut check time for the Montana senators.

 

[elkhunter505]

Have any of the orgs like Howl posted about this latest effort? Would like to write/call in again on this

I saw HOWL put a link to it on their instagram story I believe. Backcountry hunters and anglers has a canned platform to contact your senators about the issue as well.

 

[LostArra]

Selling off the public land does solve the corner crossing issue since all four corners will be private.

 

[LFC911]

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[elkhunter505]

Selling off the public land does solve the corner crossing issue since all four corners will be private.

When I saw the map from the original House version and all that checkerboard in northern Nevada that they were trying to sell, that is the thought I had immediately. Seemed like a preemptive strike to eliminate the possibility of corner crossing being legal everywhere.

 

[sivart]

not sure if someone has posted the phone number. 202-224-3121

This will direct you to your senators voicemail. I left messages to both my senators voicing against the public land sell off.

 

[CorbLand]

I saw HOWL put a link to it on their instagram story I believe. Backcountry hunters and anglers has a canned platform to contact your senators about the issue as well.

Take the canned emails they provide and reword them. If everyone sends the same email, they get ignored.

You can also find the contact information for your representative and senators here.

https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member

 

[Ozarkansas]

Take the canned emails they provide and reword them. If everyone sends the same email, they get ignored.

You can also find the contact information for your representative and senators here.

https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member

Good point, I used BHA’s canned email. But I modified it to talk about being a veteran, focused it on “outdoorsmen in the natural state” and just generally made it more specific.

That being said I’m not particularly hopeful. Arkansas’ representatives are pretty solid but our senators (especially Tom Cotton) aren’t nearly as friendly towards public lands or outdoorsmen.

 

[CorbLand]

Good point, I used BHA’s canned email. But I modified it to talk about being a veteran, focused it on “outdoorsmen in the natural state” and just generally made it more specific.

That being said I’m not particularly hopeful. Arkansas’ representatives are pretty solid but our senators (especially Tom Cotton) aren’t nearly as friendly towards public lands or outdoorsmen.

I reworded it as well.

You’re not hopeful? My senator is the one that introduced this.

 

[Ucsdryder]

I reworded it as well.

You’re not hopeful? My senator is the one that introduced this.

Sent message to Gabe Evans. I have a feeling he’s pro selling OUR public lands. If someone can confirm let us know.

 

[bpitcher]

I wrote my critters. I don't have any great hope that they'll oppose this, but I'll keep on them.

 

[Hnthrdr]

Sent message to Gabe Evans. I have a feeling he’s pro selling OUR public lands. If someone can confirm let us know.

Well he is a congressman… hick and Bennet are against any sale, do we need to play the school house rock video for you?

 

[bpa556]

I can't speak to the exact details of the bill, but it is pretty important and valid to note that there is more going on than just preserving hunting lands. Over 80% of Nevada is "owned" and controlled by the federal government, mostly BLM. Where this becomes a real and damaging problem is when Reno, Las Vegas, and a couple of other growing areas literally hit the edge of federal land and can't grow further. They are completely surrounded, like an island.

So housing gets vastly more expensive, and it becomes far more difficult for families.

Two identical houses in Texas and Nevada, in equally prosperous neighborhoods, could have a half-million dollar gap between their two prices. That's a reality. I don't want to be seeing chunks of wilderness sold to developers, but there's a lot of crap scrubland around Vegas and Reno that barely sustain jackrabbits. I'm 100% in favor of selling off limited runs of lands that border those cities once a decade or so, because to not do so really harms the quality of life of people living here.

Their expansion into federal lands already exists outside of this bill. And it’s stupid that it does.

None of the major cities in NV (or Az, or UT) need to grow one more millimeter laterally. They already rob the rivers of water because there’s not enough groundwater to sustain them. Lateral expansion means more water shed covered by concrete and more idiotic lawns and golf courses sucking water out of rivers “flowing” through the desert. Growing vertically costs more and you deserve to pay it if you want to move into inhospitable lands.


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[RockAndSage]

Growing vertically costs more and you deserve to pay it if you want to move into inhospitable lands.

I'm not sure how to address just how profoundly stupid this marxist argument is, other than to say it's about at the level as saying you don't deserve to hunt if you moved to the "inhospitable lands" of a city.

Water issues are a different matter, and I'd be more inclined to hear an anti-growth argument based on that, but the reality of creating a hospitable environment for people to raise families without the "inhospitable" burdens of 50% housing costs means we need to make housing as cheap as possible through releasing the market, not restricting it.