Seeking Best Idaho Fish and Game Attorney

[ThorM465]

Yes, animals are held in trust by a state. This is not up to subjectivity. That is a fact.
Yes, one must be a resident of a state to get resident tags.

Really not that hard of a concept here and I am running out of crayons.

Where in this thread was that questioned?

Let's just start over and try this again.

Let's assume that's true. Then why is residency a requirement and exactly what about being a resident entitles you to special privileges? Honest question.

Which was asked in response to

Someone correct me, but I don’t think any of property taxes goes to fund Fish and Game.

I asked because beyond paying taxes within and to that state what else entitles you to benefits of residency of said state and why?

 

[CorbLand]

Where in this thread was that questioned?

Let's just start over and try this again.

Which was asked in response to

I asked because beyond paying taxes within and to that state what else entitles you to benefits of residency of said state and why?

Why don’t you just make your point because I must be too fucktarded to follow what you are asking or the point you are trying to make.

 

[ThorM465]

Resident status within a state can also vary by what the resident privilege is for. It’s harder to be a resident of MT or WY for tuition purposes than it is to hunt or fish.

The states get to decide how do define what a resident is and for what privilege. I dont understand why some folks struggle so much with the concept of individual states rights.

I don't understand why people struggle with the ideas within the Declaration of Independence on which this nation was founded. Rights originate from our Creator to the Individual, period the end. The rights of the state whether that be the federal government or government of WY are derived from the Individuals from which they govern per the Federal and State Constitutions. You see the rights of the state are explicitly limited to what was explicitly given to it within a Constitution. Otherwise the Rights of the Individual takes precedence over the state. It's understandable that most don't understand this because this is the very thing that made America a radical new concept in the governance of man, not the self governance BS that public education pedals.

 

[bmart2622]

Whats the "Deceleration of Independence"? A brake check of some sort?!?!?

 

[Billy Goat]

What if you aren't in a State but a Commonwealth??



Since we have all the lawyers present.

 

[ThorM465]

Why don’t you just make your point because I must be too fucktarded to follow what you are asking or the point you are trying to make.

I'm honestly not making any point here. I genuinely asked my question in earnest. When we're making such a big deal of residency the question seemed like it should be answered first.

 

[ThorM465]

Whats the "Deceleration of Independence"? A brake check of some sort?!?!?

Fair enough allow me to semi stealth edit.

 

[bmart2622]

I don't understand why people struggle with the ideas within the Declaration of Independence on which this nation was founded. Rights originate from our Creator to the Individual, period the end. The rights of the state whether that be the federal government or government of WY are derived from the Individuals from which they govern per the Federal and State Constitutions. You see the rights of the state are explicitly limited to what was explicitly given to it within a Constitution. Otherwise the Rights of the Individual takes precedence over the state. It's understandable that most don't understand this because this is the very thing that made America a radical new concept in the governance of man, not the self governance BS that public education pedals.

So by this logic, someone doesn't need to have any regard for residency, seasons, game limits....?!?!

 

[CorbLand]

I'm honestly not making any point here. I genuinely asked my question in earnest. When we're making such a big deal of residency the question seemed like it should be answered first.

Are you asking what residency of a state is? I seriously do not understand the question you are so earnestly asking.

 

[ThorM465]

So by this logic, someone doesn't need to have any regard for residency, seasons, game limits....?!?!

Exactly what part of that lead you to this conclusion? I certainly didn't mean for it to.

 

[bmart2622]

You make claims like the state doesn't have the power to rule the people or animals of the state...."Rights of the individual take precedent over the state"...your words

 

[ThorM465]

Are you asking what residency is?

Kind of yes. I'm asking specific questions in that regard, because I explicitly am not asking how some state legally defines it. Does that make sense?

 

[CorbLand]

Kind of yes. I'm asking specific questions in that regard, because I explicitly am not asking how some state legally defines it. Does that make sense?

How could one define what a resident of a state is without defining it based on what a state says it is?

 

[gabenzeke]

Reading your posts it sure seems like you did exactly what they claim.

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[ThorM465]

You make claims like the state doesn't have the power to rule the people or animals of the state...."Rights of the individual take precedent over the state"...your words

Correct. Other than in carrying out the powers explicitly given to it by the Individual per the Constitution. Because the mob is the greatest threat to the Rights of the Individual we must construct governments (the 2nd greatest threat to the Rights of the Individual) to protect the Rights of the Individual such that a functioning society can be created from the mob. In order to have governance finite Rights must be surrendered so that the state can be given the powers necessary to carry out its critical functions. The state is given these powers per a Constitution. This is the summary of the genesis of a Constitutionally Limited Republic.

 

[johnnycake]

I don't understand why people struggle with the ideas within the Declaration of Independence on which this nation was founded. Rights originate from our Creator to the Individual, period the end. The rights of the state whether that be the federal government or government of WY are derived from the Individuals from which they govern per the Federal and State Constitutions. You see the rights of the state are explicitly limited to what was explicitly given to it within a Constitution. Otherwise the Rights of the Individual takes precedence over the state. It's understandable that most don't understand this because this is the very thing that made America a radical new concept in the governance of man, not the self governance BS that public education pedals.

It's a pity I don't hate any member of the Idaho Bar enough to refer you to them.

 

[Wyo_hntr]

So residency is a requirement "because animals are held in trust by a state..." I feel like Matt Walsh must have when shooting what is a woman.

When I said let's assume that's true I was literally conceding that point to you in an attempt to politely move forward in a productive conversation. I don't understand the vitriol. I mean I could guess, but let's just say I'm giving the benefit of the doubt.

The only thing you are conceding is credibility.

 

[realunlucky]

I'm honestly not making any point here. I genuinely asked my question in earnest. When we're making such a big deal of residency the question seemed like it should be answered first.

When I hear some one is stirring up the drama, I instantly think it's you.

Maybe consider laying low for awhile and letting someone else be the drama magnet.

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[ThorM465]

How could one define what a resident of a state is without defining it based on what a state says it is?

As a hard rule allowing the state a monopoly on defining what is and isn't is a sure recipe for tyranny.

I'd argue that as a free thinking people we should be able to come up with basic logical boundaries on what is clearly a resident or not a resident. Then we can let the politicians quibble on defining the grey areas of it.

 

[bmart2622]

So the "individuals" that make up positions like senators, congressmen, governers...which are voted on and elected by "individuals" doesnt meet your "requirement"? Its obvious youre set on this and equally as obvious that you are dead wrong on the subject. Regardless of what you think, you are entitled to nothing above and beyond what the laws state you are entitled to.